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This will be the one and only time I'll ever refer to him as "Cardinal Sean". He's Cardinal O'Malley as far as I'm concerned. I personally don't care how hard he tries to come off as just one of the guys.
Anyhow, the good Cardinal tells the world on his blog that "This issue of the Latin Mass is not urgent for our country". What planet has he been on?
The good Cardinal seems to fixate on the SSPX. His spin on the upcoming Motu Proprio falls squarely on the so-called reconciliation between Rome and the Society. As Cardinal O'Malley stated on his blog;
The Holy Father is obviously most concerned about trying to bring about reconciliation in the Church. There are about 600,000 Catholics who are participating in the liturgies of the Society of St. Pius X, along with about 400 priest.
But by making the Latin Mass more available, the Holy Father is hoping to convince those disaffected Catholics that it is time for them to return to full union with the Catholic Church... The Motu Proprio is his latest attempt at reconciliation.
In my comments at the meeting I told my brother bishops that in the United States the number of people who participate in the Latin Mass even with permission is very low. Additionally, according to the research that I did, there are only 18 priories of the Society of St. Pius X in the entire country. Therefore this document will not result in a great deal of change for the Catholics in the U.S. Indeed, interest in the Latin Mass is particularly low here in New England.
I couldn't help but notice that His Eminence failed to bring up the multiple closings of Catholic churches in his Archdiocese. His Eminence failed to mention that the fastest growing denomination in New England is Mormonism.
His Eminence failed to even discuss that within his Archdiocese, there are "Catholic" politicians who consistently tell both the Cardinal and The Church to go to hell. His Eminence failed to bring up that it's his own "faithful" Catholics that keep putting the likes of abortion-loving, homosexual-pandering "Catholics" such as Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, and Thomas Menino into office. Conspicuously absent was any mention of his predecessor who escaped just one step ahead of the DA's Office for protecting homosexual rapist "priests".
You know, it really is sad that the good Cardinal can't bring himself to be honest with us all and admit that The Church is in the self-destruct mode, especially here in America. Am I the only one who finds it odd that the good Cardinal didn't bring up the following;
Beyond a vague understanding of a need for "more vocations," most Catholics are perhaps unaware of the disaster facing the American priesthood. After skyrocketing from about 27,000 in 1930 to 58,000 in 1965, the number of priests in the United States dropped to 45,000 in 2002. By 2020, there will be about 31,000 priests--and only 15,000 will be under the age of 70, according to a study conducted by Dr. James R. Lothian of Fordham University.
The shortage of priests has created a problem previously unknown to modern Catholics: the priestless parish. Only 3 percent of the parishes in the US--a total of 549--were without a priest in 1965. In 2002 there were 2,928 priestless parishes, about 15 percent of all US parishes. By 2020, a quarter of all parishes, 4,656, will have no priest.
As one would expect, the priest dearth has been fueled by a collapse in the seminarian population. There were 16,300 seminarians in 1930 and 49,000 in 1965. By 2002 the number had plunged to 4,700: a 90 percent decrease. Without any students, countless seminaries across the country have been sold or shuttered. There were 596 seminaries in 1965, and only 200 in 2002.
Nor did His Eminence discuss this;
A 1958 Gallup Poll reported that three in four Catholics attended church on Sundays. A recent study by the University of Notre Dame found that only one in four now attend.
Only 10 percent of lay religious teachers now accept church teaching on contraception. Fifty-three percent believe a Catholic can have an abortion and remain a good Catholic. Sixty-five percent believe that Catholics may divorce and remarry. Seventy-seven percent believe one can be a good Catholic without going to mass on Sundays. By one New York Times poll, 70 percent of all Catholics in the age group 18 to 44 believe the Eucharist is merely a "symbolic reminder" of Jesus.
Should I be shocked that Cardinal O'Malley neglected to bring up how shabbily he treated the rightful aspirations of tradition-minded Catholics in his own Archdiocese? Just a few days ago, I asked "Is it any wonder that the majority of Catholics who were raised in the Mass of Paul VI look upon the Traditional Latin Mass as something freakish and to be avoided at all costs?"
But the Motu Proprio is all about the SSPX. Right, Your Eminence? As we use to say in the Marine Corps, you're either part of the problem or you're part of the solution. A blind man can see where Cardinal O'Malley falls.
To paraphrase the late, great Anna Haycraft; Cardinal O'Malley is taking something pure and strong, mixing it up with something weak and polluted, slashing it about, watching The Church fall apart around him and then congratulating himself on his progress.
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This will be the one and only time I'll ever refer to him as "Cardinal Sean". He's Cardinal O'Malley as far as I'm concerned. I personally don't care how hard he tries to come off as just one of the guys.
Anyhow, the good Cardinal tells the world on his blog that "This issue of the Latin Mass is not urgent for our country". What planet has he been on?
The good Cardinal seems to fixate on the SSPX. His spin on the upcoming Motu Proprio falls squarely on the so-called reconciliation between Rome and the Society. As Cardinal O'Malley stated on his blog;
The Holy Father is obviously most concerned about trying to bring about reconciliation in the Church. There are about 600,000 Catholics who are participating in the liturgies of the Society of St. Pius X, along with about 400 priest.
But by making the Latin Mass more available, the Holy Father is hoping to convince those disaffected Catholics that it is time for them to return to full union with the Catholic Church... The Motu Proprio is his latest attempt at reconciliation.
In my comments at the meeting I told my brother bishops that in the United States the number of people who participate in the Latin Mass even with permission is very low. Additionally, according to the research that I did, there are only 18 priories of the Society of St. Pius X in the entire country. Therefore this document will not result in a great deal of change for the Catholics in the U.S. Indeed, interest in the Latin Mass is particularly low here in New England.
I couldn't help but notice that His Eminence failed to bring up the multiple closings of Catholic churches in his Archdiocese. His Eminence failed to mention that the fastest growing denomination in New England is Mormonism.
His Eminence failed to even discuss that within his Archdiocese, there are "Catholic" politicians who consistently tell both the Cardinal and The Church to go to hell. His Eminence failed to bring up that it's his own "faithful" Catholics that keep putting the likes of abortion-loving, homosexual-pandering "Catholics" such as Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, and Thomas Menino into office. Conspicuously absent was any mention of his predecessor who escaped just one step ahead of the DA's Office for protecting homosexual rapist "priests".
You know, it really is sad that the good Cardinal can't bring himself to be honest with us all and admit that The Church is in the self-destruct mode, especially here in America. Am I the only one who finds it odd that the good Cardinal didn't bring up the following;
Beyond a vague understanding of a need for "more vocations," most Catholics are perhaps unaware of the disaster facing the American priesthood. After skyrocketing from about 27,000 in 1930 to 58,000 in 1965, the number of priests in the United States dropped to 45,000 in 2002. By 2020, there will be about 31,000 priests--and only 15,000 will be under the age of 70, according to a study conducted by Dr. James R. Lothian of Fordham University.
The shortage of priests has created a problem previously unknown to modern Catholics: the priestless parish. Only 3 percent of the parishes in the US--a total of 549--were without a priest in 1965. In 2002 there were 2,928 priestless parishes, about 15 percent of all US parishes. By 2020, a quarter of all parishes, 4,656, will have no priest.
As one would expect, the priest dearth has been fueled by a collapse in the seminarian population. There were 16,300 seminarians in 1930 and 49,000 in 1965. By 2002 the number had plunged to 4,700: a 90 percent decrease. Without any students, countless seminaries across the country have been sold or shuttered. There were 596 seminaries in 1965, and only 200 in 2002.
Nor did His Eminence discuss this;
A 1958 Gallup Poll reported that three in four Catholics attended church on Sundays. A recent study by the University of Notre Dame found that only one in four now attend.
Only 10 percent of lay religious teachers now accept church teaching on contraception. Fifty-three percent believe a Catholic can have an abortion and remain a good Catholic. Sixty-five percent believe that Catholics may divorce and remarry. Seventy-seven percent believe one can be a good Catholic without going to mass on Sundays. By one New York Times poll, 70 percent of all Catholics in the age group 18 to 44 believe the Eucharist is merely a "symbolic reminder" of Jesus.
Should I be shocked that Cardinal O'Malley neglected to bring up how shabbily he treated the rightful aspirations of tradition-minded Catholics in his own Archdiocese? Just a few days ago, I asked "Is it any wonder that the majority of Catholics who were raised in the Mass of Paul VI look upon the Traditional Latin Mass as something freakish and to be avoided at all costs?"
But the Motu Proprio is all about the SSPX. Right, Your Eminence? As we use to say in the Marine Corps, you're either part of the problem or you're part of the solution. A blind man can see where Cardinal O'Malley falls.
To paraphrase the late, great Anna Haycraft; Cardinal O'Malley is taking something pure and strong, mixing it up with something weak and polluted, slashing it about, watching The Church fall apart around him and then congratulating himself on his progress.
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Amen! I live in the Archdiocese of Boston and I am furious! These comments of his are almost amusing, given within the last 2 weeks he continued his plan of dismantling the St John's seminary in Brighton.
I don't find him amusing at all. A typical Novus Ordo politician in a clerical collar. He's definitely part of the problem. We're not going to be getting any help from him.
His hearty acceptance to say Mass in the horrific and ungodly Padre Pio Cathedral without any criticism of the appearance and uncatholic aura of this Church says tons about his perception of the liturgy.
Check this out people.
These are comments over at Fr. Z's blog.
No explanation is needed:
I just posted this on “Cardinal Sean’s” blog. I cannot believe he’s actually telling his flock this nonsense:
Your Excellency:
While I expect spin from our political leaders I don’t expect it from our prelates. And what you have posted here, whether intentionally or due to your ignorance, is pure fiction and spin pertaining to the Traditional Latin Mass.
You told your fellow bishops in Rome there isn’t a strong desire here? Did you even confer with your fellow American bishop, H.E. Burke, who has THREE traditional Mass orders in St. Loius? You must have said it when he was out of ear shot because he surely would have corrected you.
And, on this site itself, it says the Priestly Society of St. Pius X has only 18 churches here in the U.S. But if you simply go to www.sspx.org you will see that it has regular Masses in 38 states, 104 Chapels (not counting SSPX-friendly chapels where there are about 100), 24 schools, 4 retreat houses, 4 Summer camps, 1 College, 1 Seminary, 64 priests, and 63 seminarians. This is the equivolent of an ENTIRE DIOCESE in the U.S.
Finally, you say that you allow the Mass and there isn’t too much interest. Well, you just crushed the one traditional Mass you allowed and moved it away from the city. Why not have the FSSP or Institute of Christ the King come in and truly offer the traditional Mass more than one time a Sunday, use the traditional sacraments, and offer a daily Mass for the Faithful? And not simply shove traditionalists into a ghetto area where the only Mass is at obscure hours that you know is difficult for people with large families to attend.
I pray that you discontinue your abuse of the traditional Catholic Faith and start to nurish those of us who want to grow in our Faith the same way — and in the same rite — our parents, grandparent and apostles did. If you do not, I pray for your soul.
Comment by Chris — June 30, 2007 @ 6:49 am
Comment by chris — 30 June 2007 @ 6:54 am
To which someone replied:
Chris,
I posted something much tamer than your post yesterday evening on the Cardinal’s blog, and it’s already been deleted. I’d guess your post won’t last long either. His Eminence doesn’t seem to want commentary that disagrees with his position. But then it IS his blog….
Comment by Janet — 30 June 2007 @ 7:54 am
Interesting huh?
Capuchin Franciscan brothers do not use family names voluntarily. Even when they are made Cardinals of the Holy Church, they still do not use family names. When there are two Capuchin brothers who are Cardinals and named Sean, so there would be a need to distinguish between them, the proper form would be "Sean of Lakewood", just as it is "Pio of Petrelcina", "Conrad of Parzham" "Jacapone of Todi", and so on.
It has absolutely nothing to do with "being one of the guys".
This is a Cardinal, and it is amazing how, and forgive me, STUPID this man is! I have no respect for his responses and for his lack thereof! He infuriates me how he neglects to to mention what has happened to Holy Trinity Parish and how we have politicians prancing around during Gay Pride Week in there bizarre parades. It is a real shame what has happened in Boston's Archdiocese and if I were him I would be hiding my head in shame! Well we all know who he has to answer to! Or has he forgotten, or just plain too arrogant to think won't be responsible in the end to answer to God?
*shrugs* Well, it IS his blog, and he's the Bishop. We can't throw stones for something we do ourselves-delete posts we don't like. What can ya do?
Father Z had some interesting comments about this.
When there are two Capuchin brothers who are Cardinals and named Sean, so there would be a need to distinguish between them
Karen Marie,
Can you please enlighten us all as to the identity of the other present-day Capuchin brother that is also a Cardinal and is also named Sean?
Is the other present-day Capuchin brother that is also a Cardinal and is also named Sean in New England also?
Is the other present-day Capuchin brother that is also a Cardinal and is also named Sean in the United States also?
Or could it be that the other present-day Capuchin brother that is also a Cardinal and is also named Sean in North America?
I just want to ensure that no one here confuses the two.
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Two points:
1) Karen Marie is right insofar that Capuchins use their professed names even if raised to episcopal rank and/or created cardinal. If I remember correctly, Archbishop Chaput goes as "Archbishop Charles".
2) You may want to check out the comments at The New Liturgical Movement blog, under "An Eyewitness Account of the MP Meeting".
Dave,
You and KM very well may be right. I'd just personally find it easier to belive that the good Cardinal Chooses to go by Cardinal Sean vice Cardinal O'Malley because of the Capuchin tradition, rather than his desire to be oneof the boys.
If he actually conducted himself like a Capuchin, I might believe that.
If he actually acted like a Cardinal, I might believe that.
If he actually acted like a leader, I might belive that.
Instead, he consistantly kow-tows to abortionists and homosexuals. He looks the other way when Church Teaching is spat upon... all in the name of political correctness and political expediency. He refuses to acknowledge the disintergration of The Church around him all in the name of "the spirit of Vatican II".
Taking the professed name over the familial very well may be the Capuchin tradition, but when did the good Cardinal ever adhere to tradition?
He won't allow the FSSP in the archdiocese either. Luckily, the VOTF is still allowed to exist in several parishes though...
I know nothing about his managing, therefore I can't comment.
But it in the Eastern Rite it's always first name. For example for me it's "Father John" "Bishop Mark" or "Archbishop Job" or "Metropolitain Joseph" or "Patriarch Ignatius" All bishops in the EOC are monks, and I think all Catholic monks should be too IMHO.
As you well know, there isn't one yet. That's why he can just be "Cardinal Sean" and we don't have to go to "of Lakewood" quite yet.
Isn't tradition wonderful?
Karen Marie said...
Isn't tradition wonderful?
Yeah, it sure is. Now if the good Cardinal can just adhere to a little.
His comments were certainly curious, to say the least.
Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone called the meeting in Rome to discuss the Holy Father’s Motu Proprio about the use of the older form of the Latin Mass. So I assume Bertone also set the agenda.
If the issues below were not (and probably were not) on Bertone’s agenda, why would O’Malley be remiss in not commandeering Bertone’s meeting to flag the problems in his particular church? Or to cite the results of a 4 year-old study by a Professor of Finance at Fordham’s University?
1) multiple closings of Catholic churches in his Archdiocese.
2) the fastest growing denomination in New England is Mormonism.
3) "Catholic" politicians who consistently tell both the Cardinal and The Church to go to hell.
4) his own "faithful" Catholics that keep putting the likes of abortion-loving, homosexual-pandering "Catholics" [in office].
5) any mention of his predecessor who escaped just one step ahead of the DA's Office for protecting homosexual rapist "priests".
6) can't bring himself to be honest with us all (????)
7) the disaster facing the American priesthood. … By 2020, there will be about 31,000 priests--and only 15,000 will be under the age of 70, according to a study conducted by Dr. James R. Lothian of Fordham University.
8) By 2020, a quarter of all parishes, 4,656, will have no priest.that three in four Catholics attended church on Sundays. A recent study…found that only one in four now attend.
9) Only 10 percent of lay religious teachers now accept church teaching on contraception.
10) Fifty-three percent believe a Catholic can have an abortion and remain a good Catholic.
11) Sixty-five percent believe that Catholics may divorce and remarry.
12) Seventy-seven percent believe one can be a good Catholic without going to mass on Sundays.
13) 70 percent of all Catholics in the age group 18 to 44 believe the Eucharist is merely a "symbolic reminder" of Jesus.
These may all be valid issues (except issue 6) in need of prayer, study and action but issues 7 – 13 belong to all of us, not just Cardinal O’Malley.
Peace,
Pelegrius
Pel,
One thing you left out is that the good Cardinal consistantly ignores all points, 1-13.
That is, of course, unless he's announcing the closing of yet another parish; warm and friendly comments to pro-abortion "Catholic" politicians; or just how unnecessary the TLM is.
With that said, I find it exceedingly difficult to take him seriously.
"By 2020, a quarter of all parishes, 4,656, will have no priest."
As sad as that news is, it may bode well for the return of the Traditional Latin Mass as the TLM seminaries are full to the point of turning away young men who want to become TLM priests. Bit by bit, as the TLM priests fill the vacancies in those churches, a new generation will grow up with a devout, reverent, God-worshipping Mass.
Vir,
I did a two minute web search and found the following on Cardinal O’Malley’s “ lack of ignoring the important issues facing us as Catholic Christians.
“Where is the outrage? As a country we have become callous to the horrors of abortion to human life. The greatest parallel is with slavery in the antebellum period of our history. The people convinced themselves that slavery was necessary, justifiable for economic, social reasons. Today our society is turning a blind eye to abortion and saying that now the ends justify the means.”
26 January 2007
Marching for Life
Cardinal Sean’s Blog
” The gay-marriage supporters plan to call on O'Malley and the other three Catholic bishops of Massachusetts to stop campaigning for a repeal of same-sex marriage, …”
Multifaith Coalition Targets O'Malley
Members Support Same-Sex Marriage
By Michael Paulson, Globe Staff June 27, 2006
“Cardinal Sean O'Malley announced the church closings in 2004, saying the process was crucial to the church's financial future. Some parishioners protested, refusing to leave their churches. Around-the-clock vigils continue at a handful of parishes.
“Though heavy media coverage was given to protesters, most of the roughly 28,000 parishioners who attended Mass at now-closed parishes understood the reasons why and kept going to church in the archdiocese, Heck said.
“Sixty two parishes have closed since, and 15 remain to be shut down. The bulk of the closings occurred in 2004, but Mass attendance that year was actually higher than in 2005, at 321,908.”
Mar 28, 2006 5:44 pm US/Eastern
Mass Attendance Up Despite Church Closings
wbztv.com
Peace,
Pel
Pel,
I just did a two minute search and found the following on Cardinal O’Malley’s ignoring the important issues facing us as Catholics ("Catholic-Christians" is redundant);
~ BOSTON - Seven priests, including a former vice chancellor, from this diocese, who were accused of molesting children and prepubescent boys have been defrocked by the Vatican. Archbishop O'Malley expressed his "deepest sorrow for the grievous harm" done by the molesters, as he continued to use the multi-million lawsuit settlement as an excuse to close churches and schools and sell off church property.
~ A department head at the Catholic Archdiocese of Boston has resigned her post after revealing that she had secretly participated in a ceremony last year in which she says she was ordained as a Roman Catholic priest.
Jean arie Marchant, who for the last four years has been director of healthcare ministry for the archdiocese, offered her resignation to Cardinal Sean P. O'Malley in a letter last week in which she said that a year ago, using a pseudonym, she had been among nine women who had participated in an ordination ceremony on the St. Lawrence Seaway in Canada. (What... no excommunication? Not even a slap on the wrist?)
~ "The archdiocesan office of Catholic Charities has faced a separate set of public protests this week, because the agency is holding a fundraising dinner that will honor Boston Mayor Tom Menino, a proponent of legal abortion and same-sex marriage. After pro-life groups vowed to picket the Catholic Charities fundraiser, Archbishop O'Malley announced that he would not attend the event. But the archbishop stopped short of ordering Catholic Charities to withdraw the honor for Mayor Menino". (Wow... I'm underwhelmed.)
~ several other Catholic congregations also sent delegations to the [gay rights]march, including the Jesuit Urban Center in Boston, St. Ignatius Church in Newton, and the Paulist Center Boston, as well as Dignity, a gay Catholic organization. He said the delegations marched alongside a large contingent of Protestant and Jewish organizations. The Catholic groups also shared a booth at a Pride Festival on the Boston Common after the parade. (Care to guess who or how many were disciplined?)
Vir,
“Catholics ("Catholic-Christians" is redundant).”
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A redundancy is a distinction without a difference.
If all Christians are Catholic then the phrase Catholic Christian is redundant. Since we had that 16th century revolt, the term Catholic Christian is a distinction with a difference.
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“~ BOSTON - Seven priests, including a former vice chancellor, from this diocese, who were accused of molesting children and prepubescent boys have been defrocked by the Vatican. Archbishop O'Malley expressed his "deepest sorrow for the grievous harm" done by the molesters, as he continued to use the multi-million lawsuit settlement as an excuse to close churches and schools and sell off church property.”
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How does this event defame Cardinal O’Malley? It didn’t happen on his watch. I think you had it right in asking the Pope for corrective action when you originally posted this story March 16, 2006.
“COMMENTARY: Dear Pope Benedict, Good start, but justice will not be done until "Cardinal" (ugh) Law -- the accomplice after the fact -- is either defrocked or, at a minimum, stripped of his pallium and sent to a monastery in Iraq.” Caveman.
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“~ A department head at the Catholic Archdiocese of Boston has resigned her post after revealing that she had secretly participated in a ceremony last year in which she says she was ordained as a Roman Catholic priest.
Jean arie Marchant, who for the last four years has been director of healthcare ministry for the archdiocese, offered her resignation to Cardinal Sean P. O'Malley in a letter last week in which she said that a year ago, using a pseudonym, she had been among nine women who had participated in an ordination ceremony on the St. Lawrence Seaway in Canada. (What... no excommunication? Not even a slap on the wrist?)”
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Donilon, O'Malley's spokesman, said that “the cardinal has imposed no penalty on Jean Marchant, because, according to church law, she separated herself from the church by her own action.
Reference: "Canon 1364, 1
1. With due regard for canon. 194, 1, n.2, [those who have already defected from the faith] an apostate from the faith, a heretic or a schismatic incurs automatic (latae sententiae) excommunication and if a cleric, he can also be punished by the penalties mentioned in can. 1336, 1, nn. 1, 2 and 3 [which provide certain prohibitions and deprivations]."
We can let the lawyers work out the details of deposing this prophetically challenged and apparently delusional woman. But isn’t it a bit Pharisaic to be looking for road-kill in the wake of the Lord or His apostles as they walk among sinners?
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~ "The archdiocesan office of Catholic Charities has faced a separate set of public protests this week, because the agency is holding a fundraising dinner that will honor Boston Mayor Tom Menino, a proponent of legal abortion and same-sex marriage. After pro-life groups vowed to picket the Catholic Charities fundraiser, Archbishop O'Malley announced that he would not attend the event. But the archbishop stopped short of ordering Catholic Charities to withdraw the honor for Mayor Menino". (Wow... I'm underwhelmed.)
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Apparently the Pope, his boss, wasn’t underwhelmed - "February 23, 2006 In naming him cardinal, Rome sends message.”
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“~ several other Catholic congregations also sent delegations to the [gay rights]march, including the Jesuit Urban Center in Boston, St. Ignatius Church in Newton, and the Paulist Center Boston, as well as Dignity, a gay Catholic organization. He said the delegations marched alongside a large contingent of Protestant and Jewish organizations. The Catholic groups also shared a booth at a Pride Festival on the Boston Common after the parade. (Care to guess who or how many were disciplined?) “
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“September 29, 2005
Boston archdiocese forces pro-gay priest to resign
NEWTON, MASS. PARISHONERS OUTRAGED, AS CHANCERY INSIDER REV. CHRISTOPHER J. COYNE ANNOUNCED TO REPLACE POPULAR REV. WALTER H. CUENIN.” I know, not enough road-kill, but it’s a start.
Peace,
Pel
If all Christians are Catholic then the phrase Catholic Christian is redundant. Since we had that 16th century revolt, the term Catholic Christian is a distinction with a difference.
If you might be refering to the various Eastern Orthodox, then I would agree. If you mean the heretical protestants. You're incorrect. They're heretics... period.
How does this event defame Cardinal O’Malley? It didn’t happen on his watch. I think you had it right in asking the Pope for corrective action when you originally posted this story March 16, 2006.
“COMMENTARY: Dear Pope Benedict, Good start, but justice will not be done until "Cardinal" (ugh) Law -- the accomplice after the fact -- is either defrocked or, at a minimum, stripped of his pallium and sent to a monastery in Iraq.” Caveman.
The Cardinal's incapable (unwilling?) to take corrective action on his own? Not unless his hand is forced. By the way.. that wasn't I who posted that commentary, but the other contributor to this blog; Former Altar Boy
We can let the lawyers work out the details of deposing this prophetically challenged and apparently delusional woman. But isn’t it a bit Pharisaic to be looking for road-kill in the wake of the Lord or His apostles as they walk among sinners?
Tell that to Archbishop Lefevbre and the rest of (the soon to be) regularized clerics of the SSPX. I couldn't help but notice that the "excommunication" against them was screamed from the roof tops. I guess this "womynpriest" is somehow special.
Apparently the Pope, his boss, wasn’t underwhelmed - "February 23, 2006 In naming him cardinal, Rome sends message.”
I'll bet he's regretting that action now. After all, the good cardinal didn't waste too much time slamming The Holy Father's motu proprio, did he? I don't even think that 24 hours had elapsed befor he said that the MP, within the New England area) was essentially a waste of time. Great job of supporting your boss, Cardinal O'Malley!
September 29, 2005
Boston archdiocese forces pro-gay priest to resign
NEWTON, MASS. PARISHONERS OUTRAGED, AS CHANCERY INSIDER REV. CHRISTOPHER J. COYNE ANNOUNCED TO REPLACE POPULAR REV. WALTER H. CUENIN.” I know, not enough road-kill, but it’s a start.
You must have missed the "PARISHONERS OUTRAGED" PART. He must be incapable/unwilling to take corrective action on his own. And why did it take "outraged parishoners"? As soon as he found out that he had someone with a grave moral disorder among his priests, he should have canned him. But then again, why expect any strong leadership from Cardinal O'Malley? He's long on words, short on actions.
Or as we use to say in the Marines.... "his alligator mouth is overloading his mosquito ass".
I thank you for your thoughts on the subject, Pel. But I see that we're getting nowhere on this particular thread.
I'm going to make this the final comment on this particular posting.
Thanks,
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