Thursday, March 23, 2006

How Times Change
When the norm becomes extreme

One thing you never want to do is believe anything the popular media has to say about the Church until you’ve confirmed it from official Vatican sources. The press, in general, despises the Church and what it stands for, but also – as their coverage of the last papal election clearly showed – knows very little about the Church or how it works.

With that in mind, it is still interesting to see what the Associated Press had to say about the Pope’s upcoming conclave:

“After thanking the cardinals for coming, Benedict asked them to offer their thoughts on several pressing issues facing the church, including relations with Islam and the split with the ultraconservative group Society of St. Pius X founded by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, the Vatican said.”

Just think 40 years ago, or even 400 years ago, SSPX would be considered normal, routine, and common. But thanks to the modernist hijacking of Vatican II and all the novelties, banalities, and nonsense that have flowed from it, a traditional order is now considered “ultraconservative.”


Blogger prevat2 said...

Allow me to have the honor of first response to this. FAB hit the nail on the head! Prior to 1965 (end of the Second Vatican Council), the bishops, priests, religious and the laity who comprise the SSPX would have been seen as your everyday Roman Catholics.

Dear Lord, how far have we fallen, and how much further will we fall before Rome returns to Tradition?

St. Athanasius, St. Jerome, St. Thomas More, St. John Fisher and ST. PIUS X---PRAY for us and Holy Mother Church!

8:10 AM  
Blogger Carolina Cannonball said...

I don't much about SSPX'ers other then they aren't in communion with the church in Rome. But I was nosing around their website & saw a parish only 30 minutes away. hmmm... I would go if I wasn't afraid of being doomed to hell, as my priest said would happen.

I can't believe there is a latin mass so close when I was told I would have to drive 5 hours to SC to go to a "ligit" catholic church.

I was duped I tell ya, duped.
*dusting off my mantilla*

12:57 PM  
Blogger Vir Speluncae Catholicus said...

As usual, an excellent posting from FAB.

CC, please feel free to go here. Cardinal Castrillon Hoyos has already stated that "he saw no heresy or schism in the SSPX's activities"

I would like to suggest the following site;

Letter by Msgr. Camille Perl Regarding Society of St. Pius X Masses

Best thing I can do is suggest you read all the pro & con material you can, then make up your own mind if they are in fact, in schism or not.

After some of the statements coming out of Rome for the past few months are concerned, I'm of the opinion that the so-called "excommunications" are a thing of the past... all that's left is to formally lift them.

I use to attend the SSPX Chapel in Goldsboro (Old St Mary's), but now attend the Indult in Dunn (Sacred Heart). I know Father Novak, SSPX personally. His sermons are LONG(!) but exceptionally Catholic, in every sense of the word.

If you should ever see him, tell him that The Catholic Caveman says hi!

4:58 PM  
Anonymous Former Altar Boy said...

Let me echo the words of Caveman Commander from a different perspective. I have never been to a SSPX Mass and probably wouldn't except to fulfill my Sunday obligation. That said, I have every sympathy for their effort. How could a Mass that was correct for 1500 years suddenly be wrong because a "pastoral" council wants to experiment with something new (not to mention all its unintended adulterations)? I know this: they pray for the Holy Father at every Mass and are probably more loyal to Rome than many of our current bishops. Recall that even though MOST of the bishops of his day were Arians, St. Athanasius told them they were all heretics and would not back down from that he knew was right despite all the hardships he suffered as a result.

5:29 PM  
Blogger Dave said...

Prior to 1965 (end of the Second Vatican Council), the bishops, priests, religious and the laity who comprise the SSPX would have been seen as your everyday Roman Catholics.

If you mean a little bit of everything, from good Catholics practicing their faith as best they know how (and I've met a good number like these), to complete nutters (I've met and read the writings of some of these, alas), you're right.

11:24 PM  

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