Thursday, March 05, 2009

Who Made This Delta Bravo The Pope?
More from the Land of Dancing Girls and Federal Indictments

Yeah, this guy's got room to talk.

From USA Today; (Emphasis and comments mine)
Cardinal Mahony bans Holocaust-denier from L.A. archdiocese

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Cardinal Roger Mahony on Tuesday took the unusual step of banning Holocaust-denying British Bishop Richard Williamson from any Roman Catholic church, school or other facility in the Archdiocese of Los Angeles.
(In case anyone was interested in factual information, Bp Williamson never denied the Holocaust. He did, however, question the numbers. But never let facts get in the way of Catholic-bashing. Even for a Judas like Roger the Dodger Maphony)

"Holocaust deniers like Williamson will find no sympathetic ear or place of refuge in the Catholic Church, of which he is not — and may never become — a member," (Kinda fast and loose with the rules, 'eh, Rog? You move quicker than one of your Liturgical Go-Go Dancers at this years wREC) said a commentary signed jointly by Mahony, head of the nation's largest archdiocese, and two officials of the American Jewish Committee.

"The cardinal wishes to send a clear signal to the Jewish community that Williamson is not a member or even welcome in the Catholic Church until he renounces his views," said Tod Tamberg, spokesman for the archdiocese. (Hey Rog, could you please tell me what specific sin Bp Williamson has committed that will send his soul to eternal hellfire? And while you're at it, how about a clear signal to the Catholic community? Even a little adherence to just the basics of Catholicism once in awhile would be nice.)

13 Comments:

Blogger Cookie said...

Wow. Apparently he doesn't know what an archbishop is (i.e., a member - at least at one point - of the Catholic Church).

Surprising, considering his job title... Not surprising, given his actions.

12:29 PM  
Blogger TCN said...

He's just afraid Williamson might let someone kneel to receive communion.

5:52 PM  
Blogger Paul said...

"Bp Williamson never denied the Holocaust. He did, however, question the numbers."

Please - to say that only 300,000 Jews died at the hands of the Nazis, when the death toll was twenty times that, is to deny the Holocaust. It's to turn an international genocide into a large but localized massacre. He also denied that there were ever gas chambers. Any suggestions as to how St Edith Stein might have met her end?

That somebody illicitly ordained by one mad old fascist turns out to be another mad old fascist is hardly a surprise, but don't try to make him out some sort of hero just because the liberals you dislike dislike him.

7:09 PM  
Blogger Vir Speluncae Catholicus said...

Paul,
First off, I don't recall ever agreeing with Bp Williamson, so spare me the girlish dramatics.

Secondly, since when did 300K dead equates to a denial? Please.

By the way, where does the figure of six million come from? If you did your homework, you's know that from the Nuremberg Trials to many decades after, the numbers fluxuated from 2.5 - 3.5 million killed. Until someone said that "as many as 6 million" could have been killed. Then that number became etched in stone, and looked upon as "fact".

I also find it interesting that you refer to Abp Lefevbre as a "mad old fascist", especially in light of the fact that his own father died in a Nazi Death Camp. (
http://www.insidethevatican.com/newsflash/2009/newsflash-feb-08-09.htm)

Try to refrain from demonizing someone (or two, in your case) just because the Traditionalsts you dislike speak the truth about him [them].

Oh, and in case you missed it, the excommunication was lifted. I'm sure you must have seen it. It was in all the papers. So much for your swipe about "illicitly ordained".

Tread carefully, Paul. You're a guest on my blog.

7:38 PM  
Blogger Adeodatus49 said...

Oh BTW, Cardinal Castrillon de Hoyos, President of the Ecclesia Dei Commission, has affirmed that the SSPX are NOT schismatic. "Not schismatic" means they are (Roman) Catholic. You don't have to like the SSPx or agree with them, but no one--not even the Red Guru--can call them schismatic or "not-Catholic" and be anything other than a liar (and a fool).

8:04 PM  
Blogger Thomas L. said...

Does anyone else find it a bit ironic that Cardinal Mahony vows that Holocaust deniers "will find no place of refuge in the Catholic Church," yet he....

1)Has said almost NOTHING to the pro-choice infant holocaust initiators?

2)Has often opened his arms (Given a place of refuge to) to members of the "Rainbow Sash" squad, a group of dissident homosexuals that not only attack the Church with protests but demand that the Church change it's doctrine?

People who support the murder of hundreds and thousands of infants a day....A-okay in LA

People who partake in and openly support sinful, lustful actions and want to publicly show their support of and participation in such actions....A-okay in LA

Roman Catholic clergy that have simply questioned a number (A number that, like Vir Speluncae Catholicus pointed out, isn't even close to the official number given at the Nuremburg Trials) of people killed in an event....No home for you in LA

9:18 PM  
Blogger Former Altar Boy said...

Maybe The Dodger needs to open the Good Book from time to time. I suggest he start with Matt. 7:1

9:35 PM  
Blogger Al said...

Technically, Mahony does have the right to do what he did. That aside, my suspicions are that he is hiding behind what Williamson said as a cover for the real reaons he doesn't want Williamson.

12:18 AM  
Blogger Vir Speluncae Catholicus said...

Al,
For Bp W to be denied anywhere under the auspices with the Arcgdiocese of LA... your right. For Mahony to deny that Bp W is a Catholic?

I'm sure you'lll agree... mahony is way off-base.

6:51 AM  
Blogger Vir Speluncae Catholicus said...

Paul,
Know that I've deleted your comment of just a few minutes ago.

Due to your obstinancy to claim lies as fact, and your overall stupidity, your privilege of commmenting on this blog have been revoked.

Know that any and all comments from you will automatically be deleted without so much as even being read.

Have a happy day.

7:00 AM  
Blogger Al said...

Vir,

"I'm sure you'lll agree"

Yes, Williamson is Catholic, Mahony is off base. But what else is new about Mahony? He has been off base for a very long time.Remember when Mother Angelica took him on, & rightly so, for what he said about the Eucharist?

Like I said, I suspect that there is something more behind this. & it has to do with what Mahony said recently about the liturgy (TLM) & his million & 1 other heresies, such as the ones Thomas L pointed out, that he has promoted out there in LaLa land.

It is my sincere belief that while Mahony thinks he will go down as a great leader who lead the Church out of the dark ages, the reality is different. My opinion is that, if even remembered, Mahony will be seen on a level with other heretical Bishops like Arius & Pelagius. Of course, with Mahony's ego, he may see that as a good thing.

8:33 AM  
Blogger Vir Speluncae Catholicus said...

Damn straight, Al.

11:21 AM  
Blogger Simplex Vir said...

Since Paul has been banned I consider it my duty to communicate for him since this mean cuss of a Marine won't play fair!

Paul: I luv Vatican II, and when filming is done on Vatican III I will first in line at the cinema.

That Colin Ferrall is to die for, he is just ssoooo butch!

6:39 PM  

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