Who Is That CAVEMAN Saying All Those Horrible Things!!??
You just might be surprised
With regard to the suppression [of the Traditional Latin Mass in 1969], this individual wrote: "A community is calling its very being into question when it suddenly declares that what was its holiest and highest possession is strictly forbidden and when it makes the longing for it seem downright indecent."
Now THAT'S powerful! "Calling our very being into question... makes the longing for it seem downright indecent." Want to guess who said that? I'll tell ya... Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger in his the interview-book Salt of the Earth (1997). Gee, I've been saying that for years. Looks like I'm in good company, eh?
But for those who still buy into the myth that "the spirit of V2" is getting us back to our roots, allow me to point the following out to you;
The Latin Mass isn't something that magically appeared back in the 1500's during the Council of Trent. Neither did it simply fall from the sky when Pope St. Gregory the Great introduced The Gregorian Sacramentary in the 6th century. Even the Canon of the Latin Mass dates to the 4th century. The historical fact of the matter is, even in it's infancy, the Latin Mass has been with us since the 1st century when Sts. Peter and Paul first preached in Rome. The words of the Consecration have remained constant for 2,000 years within the Latin Mass. There simply is no getting around that.
Oh, before I forget... why did Pope St. Gregory the Great even want to retain Latin in the liturgy? Golly, could it be because he realized that Latin was unchanging, and that this new language called Italian was ever evolving and constantly changing? Yep... that exactly the reason. Boy, they didn't call him "The Great" for nothing, huh? I'd wager if he were around today, many would call him a Rad-Trad or possibly even a caveman.
Anyhow, So for all those nay-sayers who have all the theological, ecclesiastical and historical depth of a kiddie wading pool, please refrain for the soft-headed notion that the Motu Proprio is all about the SSPX, or simply pleasing (shutting up) a extremely small number of "Rad-Trads".
It's all about our very being of being Catholics. If you have any questions, direct them to the guy who lives in Rome who wears those really cool Prada shoes.
You just might be surprised
With regard to the suppression [of the Traditional Latin Mass in 1969], this individual wrote: "A community is calling its very being into question when it suddenly declares that what was its holiest and highest possession is strictly forbidden and when it makes the longing for it seem downright indecent."
Now THAT'S powerful! "Calling our very being into question... makes the longing for it seem downright indecent." Want to guess who said that? I'll tell ya... Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger in his the interview-book Salt of the Earth (1997). Gee, I've been saying that for years. Looks like I'm in good company, eh?
But for those who still buy into the myth that "the spirit of V2" is getting us back to our roots, allow me to point the following out to you;
The Latin Mass isn't something that magically appeared back in the 1500's during the Council of Trent. Neither did it simply fall from the sky when Pope St. Gregory the Great introduced The Gregorian Sacramentary in the 6th century. Even the Canon of the Latin Mass dates to the 4th century. The historical fact of the matter is, even in it's infancy, the Latin Mass has been with us since the 1st century when Sts. Peter and Paul first preached in Rome. The words of the Consecration have remained constant for 2,000 years within the Latin Mass. There simply is no getting around that.
Oh, before I forget... why did Pope St. Gregory the Great even want to retain Latin in the liturgy? Golly, could it be because he realized that Latin was unchanging, and that this new language called Italian was ever evolving and constantly changing? Yep... that exactly the reason. Boy, they didn't call him "The Great" for nothing, huh? I'd wager if he were around today, many would call him a Rad-Trad or possibly even a caveman.
Anyhow, So for all those nay-sayers who have all the theological, ecclesiastical and historical depth of a kiddie wading pool, please refrain for the soft-headed notion that the Motu Proprio is all about the SSPX, or simply pleasing (shutting up) a extremely small number of "Rad-Trads".
It's all about our very being of being Catholics. If you have any questions, direct them to the guy who lives in Rome who wears those really cool Prada shoes.
posted by Kevin Whiteman at
4:48 PM
4 Comments:
Vir,
Great post. Why is so many can not or refuse to understand this?
There is a great post on the New Liturgical Movement blog about a modern priest trained in the "New" Mass who attended one of the 5-day Latin Mass training sessions offered this summer by the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter at their American seminary in Mebraska. The priest is honest enough to admit the exposure to the TLM priests and the Latin Mass itself forced him to take a new look at the way he understands his vocation (my paraphrase of his words). Take the time to read his remarks as well as the numerous comments including one from a priest.
Of course the Motu Proprio is about returning Catholicism to the Catholic Church. And it's about time.
"Jesus said to them: If you were blind, you should not have sin: but now you say: We see. Your sin remaineth." John 9:41
And here we are...the "none so blind as those who WILL NOT see" place!
Caveman...I'm enjoying your posts immensely. Don't know how I missed your blog for so long. Keep up the good work!
The worst Mass I ever attended was wonderful!
Some worshipers may elevate their experience of God dependent on a particular liturgy, Novus Ordo or the traditional Latin, but I am not one of them. I guess that makes me bi-liturgical. However, even though both liturgies serves me equally as vehicles to experience Eucharist, I think both should be available to enable those who are uni-liturgical to maximize their experience of Mass.
Novus Ordo, I think, wished to emphasize the communal aspects of Eucharist. Perhaps Vatican II’s bishops noting an individualism creeping into the celebration of Mass, too quickly knee-jerked the implementation of the Novus Ordo liturgy to stave off a growing “one-on-One” experience of Eucharist.
The early Church understood Eucharist to be communal. Modernism, stressing the individual and his rights, morphed into individualism. Rugged individualism is often seen in America as a virtue rather than a vice.
Receiving the sacrament increases the communicant’s union with the Risen Lord and strengthens the bonds of charity between the communicant and the community, reinforcing the unity of the Church as the Mystical Body of Christ. While Eucharist is personal experience of communion with Jesus, it cannot be only that. Paul knew that Christ cannot be separated from his members, and chides the Corinthians for their poor devotion to the Last Supper,
"For, in the first place, when you come together as a church, I hear that divisions exist among you; and in part I believe it. For there must also be factions among you, so that those who are approved may become evident among you. Therefore when you meet together, it is not to eat the Lord's Supper, for in your eating each one takes his own supper first; and one is hungry and another is drunk. What! Do you not have houses in which to eat and drink? Or do you despise the church of God and shame those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you? In this I will not praise you” (1 Cor. 11:18-25).
Paul’s message is not liturgical but theological. He was not criticizing the Corinthians for praying the wrong prayers, singing the wrong songs, or standing up instead of kneeling down. He criticized them for trying to remember Christ without remembering his Body. The Risen Christ is glorified in all his members, including the poor and the suffering.
I believe witness is the best way to communicate a mystery, especially a mystery as profound as Eucharist. At the Eucharist, I am most aware of God’s loving presence. My route to Communion at our Church leads me by the last seven Stations of the Cross. As I pace toward the minister, my eyes pass slowly over the images. I am awed and ashamed at the pain we inflicted on this loving man and my heart wrenches at the sight of His mother holding the lifeless body of her innocent son. I acknowledge to the minister my belief and receive Jesus. I walk back to my pew, astonished and grateful that His love persists.
The Eucharist heals me by reconciling me to God and to the community. While there is nothing I can do to merit God’s love, there is also nothing I can do to lose it. Christ’s love is at once an inexhaustible gift and lesson to me. Christ’s teaching on healing through reconciliation is profound: to seek forgiveness for my trespasses, I must forgive those who trespass. We are all sinners, so from time to time we will injure others and ourselves. The only way to heal a damaged soul, to regain communion is to forgive in order to be forgiven. Therefore, as a Christian I am called to forgive as I am called to love: unconditionally. I experience Eucharist, at first, as communion with Christ; an intensely personal experience of gratitude for the gift of God’s unconditional love. The experience of Christ flows easily to an experience of community. Through Him, with Him and in Him, we are one Bread, one Body.
Peace,
Pelegrius
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