Sunday, March 08, 2009

The Ministry Of Propaganda Is At It Again
The Nazis, or the Obama Administration, couldn't have done better

WARNING!! Harsh language alert!!

Here's some of the article from the MoP... oops, I mean the USCCB's official news organ, the Catholic News Service; (Emphasis and comments mine)

Abortion, death penalty wins slow in coming on state-by-state basis

By Mark Pattison
Catholic News Service

WASHINGTON (CNS) -- If Roe v. Wade -- the 1973 Supreme Court decision that made abortion legal nationwide at virtually any point in a woman's pregnancy -- were overturned, the matter would most likely be sent back to the 50 states and require campaigns to restrict or outlaw abortion to be waged on a state-by-state basis.

There's another life issue that's been the subject of state-by-state campaigns for 30-plus years: abolition of the death penalty.
(Time for a common sense check. Abortion is an intrinsic evil. "Intrinsic" means that it is pure evil and nothing good can ever become of it. In fact, the Catechism of the Catholic Church clearly states that anyone who participates in the procurement of such is automatically excommunicated, period. The Death Penalty, on the other hand, is NOT an intrinsic evil. That handful of Germans and Japanese who were executed at the end of WWII most certainly, in the words of St Dismas The Good Thief, "got what they deserved")

After the Supreme Court in 1976 allowed states to reinstate the death penalty, 37 states had laws on the books permitting the use of capital punishment, and nearly all of those states have executed a prisoner. Through March 5, 1,163 prisoners have been put to death, and another 3,308 are on death row. (As older versions of the CCC state, the DP is authorized when used "rarely and only in cases of extreme gravity". The most recent edition teaches us "Legitimate public authority has the right and duty to inflict punishment proportionate to the gravity of the offense ...the traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty". Considering the literally hundreds of thousands of murderers, rapists, kidnappers, sexual torturers, etc, that have done the Revolving Door Boogie in the American Prison System... yeah, I consider 1,163 scumbags executed a "rare amount" and only used in "cases of extreme gravity".)

Efforts to repeal the death penalty have been slow-moving. New Jersey abolished capital punishment in 2007, but a bid by Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley, a Catholic, to repeal the death penalty in his state failed March 5, with the state Legislature instead passing a bill requiring stronger evidentiary rules before applying the ultimate sentence. (Should I mention here that our stalwart "Catholic" hero is also pro-abortion? Kinda failed to mention that lil' tid-bit, didn't ya USCCB MoP?)

In Texas -- whose 433 executions since 1977 are quadruple the number in the state with the next highest tally -- the Texas Catholic Conference joined the two life issues one day in November.

The day started with a Mass at a chapel in Huntsville, Texas, celebrated by Cardinal Daniel N. DiNardo of Galveston-Houston, which attracted an overflow crowd.
(So, Your Eminence. If I believe that the Death Penalty should be used only rarely and in cases of extreme gravity... oh, let's say for some piece of shit who raped, sodomized and sexually tortured to death an 11-year old girl with a hunting knife and a pair of pliers... am I going to hell?)
In true USCCB fashion, they've attempted to confuse the Faithful into believing that a yield sign is actually a stop sign.

And of the 1,163 executions that have been carried out since 1976 (a third of a century ago), I'd like to remind everyone that roughly that same amount are murdered every day in the womb.

It never ceases to amaze me to what lengths the attention-starved will go to to save the earthy lives of those who hacked and slashed to death people on this side of the birth canal, but just shrug their shoulders to the millions that have been slaughtered on that side of the birth canal. Sorry, the two just aren't the same.

Kinda reminds me of the old saying -- "An anti-Death Penalty advocate is someone who hasn't had a child kidnapped, raped and murdered yet."


Blogger Al said...

"In true USCCB fashion, they've attempted to confuse the Faithful into believing that a yield sign is actually a stop sign."

& this surprizes you HOW???????

Let's face it. This is the same fuzzy thinking that created all the confusion that gave Catholics the excuse to vote for Obama last year. The death penalty & the abortion issue are 2 different things. As you said, abortion is "intrinsicly evil", the death penalty isn't. Let's stop joining them at the hip.

All that does is give pro-abort Catholics cover to say they are pro-life because they oppose the death penalty. & the excuse to not fight for the unborn.

The Church allows you to be against the death penalty. It also allows you to be for it. It only has 1 acceptable position on abortion, against. Nowhere is there an automatic excommunication if you participate in an execution like there is for participating in an abortion.

I may not be a big fan of the death penalty, but I see no urgency in having that debate about ending it when over 3200 innocent children are murdered every day in the USA & (assuming your number is correct, as it probably is) in 33 years 1,163 duly convicted adults died via the death penalty. Or only a little less than .09 persons a day have died via the death penalty.

3200 a day (abortion) v .09 a day (death penalty), no contest as to where the focus should be. & it shouldn't be on ending Legitimate public authority's right to recourse to the death penalty.

8:44 AM  
Blogger Baron Korf said...

His Emminence is no fool. He's played the liberal's game against themselves. He did a prolife march from the Planned Parenthood facility to the death row jail Huntsville. He said it was to show the Church's concern for human life from conception to natural death. While the argument that is made here can be made; it cannot be made without its corallary, that abortion is an execution.

In CCC 2267 "...the Church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor. If, however non-lethal means are sufficient to defend and protect people;s safety from the aggressor, authority will limit itself to such means, as these are more in keeping with the confrete condition of the common good and more in conformity with the dignity of the human person."

So these efforts to protest the broad use of the death penalty should strive for its obselecenese rather than its abolishment. If we can eliminate the revoling door effect for these offenders then there would be far less need for it. We should not covet it as a sort of revenge, only as a way to protect the innocent.

4:13 PM  
Blogger Bill Hoog said...

Abortion is killing someone who's in the wrong place at the wrong time. I can't see how this equates to someone who's killed someone & is being punished for it by the death penalty.

5:08 PM  
Blogger Vir Speluncae Catholicus said...

We should not covet it as a sort of revenge, only as a way to protect the innocent.

I agree. When utilized correctly, the DP is justice, not revenge. And of course, expiation of sin.

5:36 PM  
Blogger Arkanabar T'verrick Ilarsadin said...

So, to emphasize the point Al made:

In the 30 years since the death penalty was reinstated, almost 1700 people have been executed in the US. But more than twice that many are killed every day by abortion.

7:45 PM  
Blogger gramps said...

Nato and the USCCB. Both cesspools with no redeeming value. For every good person in the UN, there is all the rest. for every good bishop there is a vast majority that are dissenting idiots that should have been thrown out long ago.

I still have hopes that if I manage to squeeze into heaven or even the place where I may have hope of heaven when purified, I will be able to witness these dissenting bishops come up for judgement. I will especially relish hearing our Lord question them on the tens of millions of babies killed under their watch and with their explicity assistance. If we had a solid group of bishops on fire with love of Christ and His Church, the Church would change into a force that even Satan could not damage. But we have ego maniacs who life like limo liberals and hang out with abortion loving pols at wine parties. Christ promised a millstone for those that harm children and I suspect there are many waiting for necks of bishops.

10:50 PM  
Blogger Al said...

Not that I ever expect them to, but maybe the USCCB might want to pay a little more attention to something Papa Benedetto said: "Not all moral issues have the same moral weight as abortion and euthenasia. There may be legitimate diversity even among Catholics about waging war & even applying the death penalty, but not . . . with regard to abortion and euthenasia."

Did you get that USCCB? I'll repeat the key line "There may be legitimate diversity even among Catholics about waging war & even applying the death penalty, but not . . . with regard to abortion and euthenasia."

OK USCCB I'll make it simpler:
The 2 issues are not on a par with each other

death penalty - diversity of opinion allowed for Catholics, can be for or against

abortion - no diversity allowed, you must oppose if you are a Catholic

But given their track record, I highly doubt that the USCCB will.

Why should they? By presenting the abortion & death penalty issues on a par with each other it enables them to make the death penalty ban an absolute & the abortion issue debatable.

PS: Not that I am trying to blow my own horn,(or for any of us here) but isn't it a sad thing when a layman knows more about what the Catholic Church actually teaches than the majority of the US Bishops seem to know or want to know?

1:51 AM  

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