Friday, February 19, 2010

Martha, Mary And A Bastardized Faith
More common sense observation from Michael Voris

Did you know that roughly one quarter to one third of Catholics in Latin America have abandoned The Faith?

In a nutshell, here's why - Traditional Catholicism is Mary. The "Spirit of Vatican II" is Martha. Period, end of story, watch the video, attend the Traditional Latin Mass only.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ahem. I am no great fan of Mary who had but ONE bright moment in all of Holy Scripture. It was Martha who took care of everyone's corporal needs plus was graced enough to be there to greet Jesus while sissy was home being comforted. "Martha therefore, as soon as she heard that Jesus had come, went to meet him: but Mary sat at home."

It was Martha, not Mary to whom Jesus then spoke as He did to Peter when He asked her "Believest thou this?" to which she said, like the first Pope said "Yea, Lord, I have believed that thou art Christ the Son of the living God, who art come into this world." It was Martha who had to then sneak back home to get her sister whose knack of being where she should have been had apparently fizzled. Must have been a shameful disgrace too because Holy Scripture uses the word "secretly" to describe the way Martha went to get her sister Mary. What a thoughful and protective sister Martha was.

Martha laments her brother's death to Jesus, shows Him her faith that God the Father will do whatever Jesus asks and she gets words of comfort. Mary shows up late, flops on the ground, asks the VERY SAME QUESTION and Jesus takes pity and weeps, then raises the brother from the dead. Go figure.

It was Martha, Martha, Martha who did it all and then some, but Mary the late arriving squeaky wheel who got all the grease.

I always get so heartbroken when Martha gets the tail end of things because she truly deserves better, Your Spelunciness. Especially with regard to that minor council Vatican II and the rotten fruit it produced.

11:33 AM  
Blogger Vir Speluncae Catholicus said...

Like many of the parables and examples Christ gave, the story of Mary and Martha had to do with exactly what I was getting at... The Church's #1 priority is the salvation of souls, period.

Is the faithful son in the parable of the Prodigal Son somehow cheated, or what he looked upon as whiney? Or the workers in the vinyard who had been there all day? Again, where they cheated or whiney?

I believe the example of Mary and Martha is especially timely in light that we have too, too many in The Church that fail to recognize that taking care of corporal needs indeed are important... but not as important as the needs of the soul.

By the way, I must ask -- with what you described as "Mary flopping on the ground" followed up with a "go figure", are you implying that Christ was somehow wrong?

12:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rather assumptive, aren't you?

12:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And see ya.

12:46 PM  
Blogger Vir Speluncae Catholicus said...

How am I being assumptive? I just asked you if Christ was somehow wrong? That's what you implied.

I only used the words you posted, no? You ref'ed to Mary as "the squeeky wheel who got all the grease". And, of course, the "go figure" comment makes me believe that you are questioning Christ.

How else was I suppose to take it?

Oh, and see ya.

2:54 PM  
Blogger Simplex Vir said...

Sonja, I hope that you come back. You apparently have a tremendously large chip on your shoulder. Coming here will most certainly tend to knock those chips away.

However if you recover from your rather embarassing "presumption" of our Lord's preaching moment as a backhanded slap to Martha come on back.

It is not easy to read, digest, and understand the Word of God. We all wrestle with parables and passages that challenge our human and corporal sense of right and wrong.

My Priest often reminds me that those of us in the modern world have no way of living in it without it corrupting our hearts. It takes constant vigilence and much reparation through confession, penance, and prayer.


7:37 PM  
Blogger JLS said...

Martha was both worshipful of Christ and loving of those around her. This is not the same of today's "martha's" who do not worship Christ yet care for those around them, such as advocate euthanesia, abortion, homosexual frolicking, and much much more.

No way does Sonja fit this mold. BTW, Martha is a Saint.

Now, I always thought Mary was praying all that time so that Martha would ramp up her faith action.

Ora et Labora: Pray and work is where it's at according to St Benedict.

I think Sonja will return just as Martha did, or did she? She did so much that it boggles my mind.

10:05 PM  
Blogger Vir Speluncae Catholicus said...

SV and JLS,
FWIW, I once believed as Sonja. Why is Martha getting such a raw deal?

But then I looked deeper into it, and then realized that there really is a deeper meaning.

10:15 PM  
Blogger JLS said...

This is intriguing about Mary and Martha. Now I get to deploy a cliche I used to hear from a green beret friend, "Who'da thunk?"

I think this Martha and Mary story is one of the few I have not dug into very deeply. Of course now that I've mentioned "few", no doubt at all there will be a fire storm of Bible stories raining down on my head that I never looked into much.

I'm gonna try hard to come up with what Sonja came up with. I think it's a lost cause, but there looks to be a silver lining, a hidden cache of jewels ... I'm gettin' out my pick and shovel now and mining for gold.

12:59 AM  

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