Thursday, August 23, 2007

I've Been Told Not To Post Anything More Derogitory Towards The USCCB
That doesn't mean I can't link to someone who does!

THIS is an absolutely first rate post. Steve over at Uncovering Orthodoxy has a crackerjack lambasting of the USCCB. Here's just a taste;

So I’m in Church this morning and Ivan is screeching like a girl so I take him out to the narthex (A.K.A. the place where I spend most of my liturgical life these days.) While I’m standing there I notice a card on the bulletin board, entitled, “What is important to Catholic citizens?”

As I begin to read the text, thoughts begin coming, unbidden, into my mind. I will now recreate this experience for you here, with some afterthought embellishments added for your amusement:

The following planks are from Faithful Citizenship, a pamphlet issued in 2000 by the U.S. Catholic Bishops

1. Provide health care.
2. Provide affordable housing.
3. Increase the minimum wage.

Typical could be liberal, could be quasi-Catholic teaching stuff. No surprises really, even if I’m not sure why we care so much about these things as citizens.

4. End abortions.
These are obviously not in order of importance. I hope.



5. End the concentration of control of broadcasting cable and satellite media.
Huh? Moving on, deciding I can’t possibly unpack that one…



6. In agriculture, provide food security for all and decent wages and housing for workers.
Ok. Sort of.


7. Provide all immigrants with access to basic public health benefits - health care, food stamps.
This one starts my blood pressure - simmering, not boiling. “All immigrants?” I wonder. “Even the illegal ones?”


8. Provide all persons with quality education which is their right.
THEIR RIGHT? I’m not sure what the difference is between systolic and diastolic, but I’m almost positive their respective numbers are now off by double digits.


9. End discrimination based on sex, race, ethnicity, religion and age.
“They didn’t say sexual orientation,” I think, so I begin an attempt at normal breathing again. By this point, Ivan is as quiet as he can make himself. They say babies sense emotions…


10. Abolish death penalty.
“This may be a mercy I require soon, if this list doesn’t get better fast.”


11. Provide environmental protection of land water and air, which is a moral obligation.
I thought for Catholics, the big “inconvenient truth” was found in John 6. I had completely forgotten about the Gospel According to Al Gore.


12. Ratify treaty to ban anti-personnel land mines & Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, and end the global arms race.
Well, at least they covered one of the intentions we always pray for during the family rosary. We forget about things like the reform of the Church, the restoration of the Roman Liturgy, the social reign of Christ the King, etc. But anti-personnel land mines? Does ANYONE not worry about those? If so, I’d like to meet him…

13 Comments:

Blogger Dad29 said...

Note the date: 2000.

Things have changed over there at USCC since ~2005.

3:21 PM  
Blogger gemoftheocean said...

The USCCB can take a flying leap off a very short pier, as far as I am concerned. They are about as bad as the UN and the democrat party.

At least I am in a position to nuke any so-called "prayers of the faithful" that sounded like the were written by one of the above entities.

4:03 PM  
Blogger Vir Speluncae Catholicus said...

Dad29,
What changes? Minimal at best.

Better yet, once the USCCB actually enforces the Holy Father's directive that pro-abortion "Catholic" politicians WILL be denied Holy Communion.... maybe then the USCCB will regain some credibility.

In the meantime, there may be a very small minority that actually conduct themselves like Catholic leaders should. But for the most part, their just another mouthpiece for the Liberals of America.

7:00 PM  
Blogger Vir Speluncae Orthodoxae said...

Well I can and will lambast them, until they stop protecting kiddie rapists, turd burglars and until they ACT like Catholic bishops.

8:58 PM  
Blogger the Mom said...

Who exactly told you to lay off of the USCCB? They alone are responsible for their actions or lack of action.

I say, "Speak your mind, Caveman." I like it when you do.

9:25 PM  
Blogger Joe said...

If it's someone official at the USCCB, do it anyway and then go to Confession.

-J.

10:27 PM  
Blogger Vir Speluncae Catholicus said...

Guys,
Don't think for a moment that I'm going to cease from speaking out whenever the USCCB does stupid things... such as ignores The Holy Father RE: denying Holy Communion to Pro-Butchery "Catholic" politicians, etc, etc.

Let's just suffice it to say that someone who I respect deeply has asked me to lay-off the derogitory comments. That's why I deleted all references to the USCCB as "The Judas Iscariot Fan Club & Circle Jerk Society".

Oops, I just screwed up, didn't I? *insert evil grin here*

7:56 AM  
Blogger PreVat2 said...

Cavey,
Because I am a convert, and therefore don't give a damn what a member of the clergy thinks of me, allow me to say (rather proudly) that the USCCB is, in fact, "The Judas Iscariot Fan Club & Circle Jerk Society."

I, for one, will never bend my knee to these clowns until they stop protecting the fags in the priesthood, stand up to pro-infanticide politicians, and actually bend their own knees to our Holy Father. Until then...Go Pound Sand!
Semper Fi

8:27 AM  
Blogger Coffee Catholic said...

What's the Circle Jerk Society? (Should I have even ASKED that question??)

11:23 AM  
Blogger Vir Speluncae Catholicus said...

CC,
It a combination of the two.

11:45 AM  
Blogger Jay3gsm said...

Well, after reading the post, I'm slightly confused. The leaflet read was titled "What is important to Catholic citizens?" And the list seemed, as far as I can see, to show what is important to Catholic Citizens. Not what takes priority, not the most important issues in church teaching, just some things that are important.

1. Provide health care. Important? Of course it is.

2. Provide affordable housing. Important? Absolutely, housing is so expensive, affordable housing for low income families is a very important issue.

3. Increase the minimum wage. Important? Yes. A good job done deserves adequate pay.

4. End abortions. Important? One of the most important.

5. End the concentration of control of broadcasting cable and satellite media. Important? Yeah, sure is. Increasingly a large amount of media is being controlled by a few people. This is a bad situation, and needs to be looked at. Important to Catholics? Yes, it should be important to all, Catholics and non.

6. In agriculture, provide food security for all and decent wages and housing for workers. Important? Of course.

7. Provide all immigrants with access to basic public health benefits - health care, food stamps. Important? Of course it is. Immigrants, illegal or not, are human beings and deserve to be treated as an equal human being. Why discriminate?

8. Provide all persons with quality education which is their right. Important? Yes. A good education is definitely important, it is due to ignorance that many social problems stem from. Education is important.

9. End discrimination based on sex, race, ethnicity, religion and age. Important? Yes. Why would any Catholic not agree? Discrimination of any kind is not acceptable.

10. Abolish death penalty. Important? The death penalty is wrong, no one should be put to death, for whatever reason. The death penalty should be abolished, outlawed, assigned to history alongside other barbaric practices such the guillotine, the rack, being hung drawn and quartered and other awful acts.

11. Provide environmental protection of land, water and air, which is a moral obligation. Important? Yes, it is. As custodians of the earth, it is our duty to protect whenever and wherever we can.

12. Ratify treaty to ban anti-personnel land mines & Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, and end global arms race. Important? Kinda obvious really, of course it is.

Ok, so this list is important, should be important to Catholics and should be important to all decent people whatever their religion, or lack of. So I don't get why it's an issue that these points are being made? They are important to Catholic citizens, they should be important to ALL decent citizens.

What point have I missed here?

4:51 AM  
Blogger Vir Speluncae Catholicus said...

You've missed a couple of essential points here, Jay.

1. The USCCB is primarily a ecclesiastical organization, not one designed primarily for social change.

2. It's glaringly obvious that the USBBC looks upon the agent of change to be (drum roll).... the federal government. And by the way, I recognize Socialism when I see it.

3. "As Catholic citizens", just like Steve asked, where was it exactly where the USCCB called for the social reign of Christ the King? I didn't see that anywhere.

You've given specifics to all 12 I listed on the blog, and I'd like to respond to just a couple of them;

a. Your (and the USCCB's) calling for the end of the death penalty. OK... if you or any other Catholic so desire to personally be against the DP, go for it. But don't anyone ever dare insinuate that I, as a faithfil Catholic, MUST agree with you. The OFFICIAL Teaching of The Church is, and has been for 2,000 years, been that the DP is a valid option in extreme cases. Period. And no... I don't want to hear what Pope John Paul II's personal opinion was. If anyone thinks that being against the DP is official Church Teaching... then cite it.

2. As far as a treaty to ban anti-personnel mines is concerned, any weapon I could use to bring my Marines home in one piece, so be it. BTW, if this "treaty" is Polly-Anna thinking at its best. What makes anyone think that rouge nations or terrorists will abide? Such nonsense.

3. Health care and food stamps for someone who illegally came to this nation? You've got to be kidding? Hey! You've just kicked the door to my house open. Make yourself at home! Jay, there's absolutely nothing "unCatholic" about deporting those who've broken the law.

4. The USCCB calling for "quality education" is laughable. Isn't this the same organization that had Bishop Trautman as the Chairman of the Liturgy Committee? The same Bishop Trautman who says that we aren't all smart enough to understand the difference between "for many" and "for all"?

6:36 AM  
Blogger PreVat2 said...

Cavey,
Great response to Jay3gsm. As to Jay3gsm: My advice is to head down the street and join the Episcopalians. There're right up your alley!

9:21 AM  

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