A Tale Of Two Bishops, Part II
Catholicism is a dish best served centuries old
Did you ever notice that those who detest everything Catholic pre-1962, always rationalized their hatred of the SSPX by screeching "obedience to the Pope!"? Well... where's their obedience now?
Bishop #1 ~ From the Brian Mershon interview with Bishop Bernard Fellay, Superior General of the Society of St. Pius X.
Q: Some within the Church continue to state the SSPX is in schism; how do you answer to the following question? When was the last time 6,000 schismatics prayed in Rome during the Year of the Jubilee in 2000? When was the last time schismatics sent a spiritual bouquet of 2.5 million rosaries to the Holy Father?
A: And we have an even better argument in the [Pope’s] letter that accompanies the motu proprio on the Mass where the Holy Father says it is an internal matter within the Catholic Church—in the Church.
It clearly states that it is not about a schism. It is about an interior dispute which requires an interior reconciliation within the Church.
So we have it from the word of the boss. Our Pope says it is not a schism.
Bishop #2 ~ The Official Statement from Bishop Trautman on Pope Benedict XVI’s apostolic letter “Summorum Pontificum” (with appropriate commentary from the learned Patrick Archbold of Creative Minority Report ;
Most Reverend Donald W. Trautman, S.T.D, S.S.L., Bishop of Erie, issued the following statement on July 9, 2007 regarding Pope Benedict XVI’s apostolic letter “Summorum Pontificum”:
The recent apostolic letter of Pope Benedict XVI on widening the use of the liturgical books of 1962 is prompted by his desire to reach out to those Catholics in schism [It seems that no matter how many times this gets corrected, they still say it. So it must be true.] because of their non-acceptance of the liturgical reforms of the Second Vatican Council. [Only the crazies you see, nobody who accepts V-II wants it.]
The Second Vatican Council, an ecumenical council of the Church [in case you didn't know], restored and adapted the liturgy recommending vernacular languages for the worship life of the Church [he must have forgotten about V-II mandating the retention of Latin, oops.] Pope Benedict, sensitive to those still clinging [what are the young clinging to?] to the Tridentine Latin Mass (the 1962 missal) and liturgical rites prior to Vatican II, now grants a more generous application of that former liturgy.
Since the Diocese of Erie already permits the celebration of the Tridentine Mass in two locations, St. Ann Parish in Erie and St. Bernadette Parish in Saegertown, I do not foresee a pressing pastoral need on the part of our people. [The diocese of Erie is composed of the thirteen counties of Northwestern Pennsylvania with a Catholic population of about 225,000. Geographically, it is the largest diocese in the state covering 9,936 square miles! Yup, two is plenty.]
In the future, I will be issuing diocesan norms to help apply and order the specifics of the pope’s letter. Priests who might want to celebrate the Tridentine Mass [before being banished to the smallest coal town in Pennsylvania] will be given a rubrical and Latin exam to comply with the pope’s own statement, “The use of the old missal presupposes a certain degree of liturgical formation and some knowledge of the Latin language.” [One can only imagine the type of exam that the good bishop will concoct...Please translate the entire Webster's dictionary into Latin, you have 30 minutes...starting now.]
Further, there will be need to ascertain that the common good of the parish prevails and to ascertain what constitutes a stable community [Oooh, the hurdles he will think up for this one!] of those requesting the 1962 missal. We must keep in proper perspective [read, "my perspective"] the pope’s more generous use of the liturgical rites prior to 1962. The pope himself has said: “It is clearly seen that the new missal will certainly remain the ordinary form of the Roman rite.”
As my partner-in-crime, Former Altar Boy, posted the other day;
At the end of an article on the Pope’s motu propio Summorum Pontificum in the bulletin at our Latin Mass chapel, was this warning:
“BE prepared for the following arguments and zingers in just about every article to be published on the Classic Roman Rite:
1. Anti-Semitic
2. Sexist
3. Roll back Vatican II
4. Priest turns back on people
5. No one understands Latin
6. No one attends Old Mass
7. Permission already exists
8. Ultra-conservatives
9. All who favor Latin Mass are SSPX ‘extremists’
If Bishop Trautperson were playing Major League Baseball, he'd be making $50 million a season. He's batting .400, and the Motu Proprio hasn't even been implemented yet.
Catholicism is a dish best served centuries old
Did you ever notice that those who detest everything Catholic pre-1962, always rationalized their hatred of the SSPX by screeching "obedience to the Pope!"? Well... where's their obedience now?
Bishop #1 ~ From the Brian Mershon interview with Bishop Bernard Fellay, Superior General of the Society of St. Pius X.
Q: Some within the Church continue to state the SSPX is in schism; how do you answer to the following question? When was the last time 6,000 schismatics prayed in Rome during the Year of the Jubilee in 2000? When was the last time schismatics sent a spiritual bouquet of 2.5 million rosaries to the Holy Father?
A: And we have an even better argument in the [Pope’s] letter that accompanies the motu proprio on the Mass where the Holy Father says it is an internal matter within the Catholic Church—in the Church.
It clearly states that it is not about a schism. It is about an interior dispute which requires an interior reconciliation within the Church.
So we have it from the word of the boss. Our Pope says it is not a schism.
Bishop #2 ~ The Official Statement from Bishop Trautman on Pope Benedict XVI’s apostolic letter “Summorum Pontificum” (with appropriate commentary from the learned Patrick Archbold of Creative Minority Report ;
The recent apostolic letter of Pope Benedict XVI on widening the use of the liturgical books of 1962 is prompted by his desire to reach out to those Catholics in schism [It seems that no matter how many times this gets corrected, they still say it. So it must be true.] because of their non-acceptance of the liturgical reforms of the Second Vatican Council. [Only the crazies you see, nobody who accepts V-II wants it.]
The Second Vatican Council, an ecumenical council of the Church [in case you didn't know], restored and adapted the liturgy recommending vernacular languages for the worship life of the Church [he must have forgotten about V-II mandating the retention of Latin, oops.] Pope Benedict, sensitive to those still clinging [what are the young clinging to?] to the Tridentine Latin Mass (the 1962 missal) and liturgical rites prior to Vatican II, now grants a more generous application of that former liturgy.
Since the Diocese of Erie already permits the celebration of the Tridentine Mass in two locations, St. Ann Parish in Erie and St. Bernadette Parish in Saegertown, I do not foresee a pressing pastoral need on the part of our people. [The diocese of Erie is composed of the thirteen counties of Northwestern Pennsylvania with a Catholic population of about 225,000. Geographically, it is the largest diocese in the state covering 9,936 square miles! Yup, two is plenty.]
In the future, I will be issuing diocesan norms to help apply and order the specifics of the pope’s letter. Priests who might want to celebrate the Tridentine Mass [before being banished to the smallest coal town in Pennsylvania] will be given a rubrical and Latin exam to comply with the pope’s own statement, “The use of the old missal presupposes a certain degree of liturgical formation and some knowledge of the Latin language.” [One can only imagine the type of exam that the good bishop will concoct...Please translate the entire Webster's dictionary into Latin, you have 30 minutes...starting now.]
Further, there will be need to ascertain that the common good of the parish prevails and to ascertain what constitutes a stable community [Oooh, the hurdles he will think up for this one!] of those requesting the 1962 missal. We must keep in proper perspective [read, "my perspective"] the pope’s more generous use of the liturgical rites prior to 1962. The pope himself has said: “It is clearly seen that the new missal will certainly remain the ordinary form of the Roman rite.”
As my partner-in-crime, Former Altar Boy, posted the other day;
At the end of an article on the Pope’s motu propio Summorum Pontificum in the bulletin at our Latin Mass chapel, was this warning:
“BE prepared for the following arguments and zingers in just about every article to be published on the Classic Roman Rite:
1. Anti-Semitic
2. Sexist
3. Roll back Vatican II
4. Priest turns back on people
5. No one understands Latin
6. No one attends Old Mass
7. Permission already exists
8. Ultra-conservatives
9. All who favor Latin Mass are SSPX ‘extremists’
10. Something about Mel Gibson.”
Watch your popular media and certain Catholic publications and see how close the author was.
Watch your popular media and certain Catholic publications and see how close the author was.
If Bishop Trautperson were playing Major League Baseball, he'd be making $50 million a season. He's batting .400, and the Motu Proprio hasn't even been implemented yet.
posted by Kevin Whiteman at
6:26 PM
1 Comments:
Trautman is also the one who was on the committee assigned to help translate the Vat2 readings into PROPER English and still sent some modern and sexaully "inclusive" language to Rome for approval and quickly had it REJECTED.
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