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We have met the enemy, and they are us
I've discussed how there are those within The Church who are enamored with protestant inspired "liturgies", well... get ready for a little tale of common sense being completely abandoned.
Defying the obvious, Bishop Donald Trautman of Erie, PA who is also the Chairman of the USCCB's Committee on the Liturgy, has recently stated “I believe the best translation of ‘pro multis’ is ‘for all’”. You gotta be kidding me. Any Latin 101 student knows that "pro multis" translates to "for many", and "pro omnia" translates to "for all". You know... "multis"... "multitude". "Omnia"... omni- combining form all; totally [Latin omnis all, every]. Sheesh people, open a dictionary.
Is this a big shocker? Nahhhh.. this is the very same Bishop Trautman who nailed Father John Trigilio of Harrisburg, PA for this quote in the book "Goodbye, Good Men"; referring to effeminate seminarians, Trigilio stated: "If you wore a cassock, you were a reactionary 'daughter of Trent.' If you wore women's underwear, they'd make you seminarian of the year."
Bishop Trautman's reaction? Quote-- "Because of your allegations and the scandalous manner in which you have publicized your thoughts, I hereby forbid you to exercise any priestly ministry in the Diocese of Erie until further notice."
Interesting. Seems the good bishop has a bit of a problem with recognizing the obvious. "Many" now mean "all"... a priesthood rife with homosexuals shouldn't be discussed, even though 80% of the recent sexual scandal was homosexual (and not pedophilial) in nature. Sure --- OK.
And the same Trautman who when speaking to the Federation of Diocesan Liturgical Commissions, said;
"When we encounter those who advocate a 'reform of the reform', we must say, 'Do not quench the Spirit'. The Holy Spirit was present at Vatican II and gave us new liturgical direction. When we encounter people who harken back to rigidity in rubrics, we must say. 'Do not quench the Spirit'. When inculturation is denied and one liturgical form is forced on all, we must say, 'Do not quench the Spirit'. When the Scripture translations in our Lectionary are flawed and not proclaimable, we must say, 'Give us the richness of God's Word: Do not quench the Spirit'. The Holy Spirit prompted the renewal and reform of the liturgy. Now, more than ever, we must say, 'Do not quench the Spirit'".
martin luther couldn't have said it better.
We have met the enemy, and they are us
I've discussed how there are those within The Church who are enamored with protestant inspired "liturgies", well... get ready for a little tale of common sense being completely abandoned.
Defying the obvious, Bishop Donald Trautman of Erie, PA who is also the Chairman of the USCCB's Committee on the Liturgy, has recently stated “I believe the best translation of ‘pro multis’ is ‘for all’”. You gotta be kidding me. Any Latin 101 student knows that "pro multis" translates to "for many", and "pro omnia" translates to "for all". You know... "multis"... "multitude". "Omnia"... omni- combining form all; totally [Latin omnis all, every]. Sheesh people, open a dictionary.
Is this a big shocker? Nahhhh.. this is the very same Bishop Trautman who nailed Father John Trigilio of Harrisburg, PA for this quote in the book "Goodbye, Good Men"; referring to effeminate seminarians, Trigilio stated: "If you wore a cassock, you were a reactionary 'daughter of Trent.' If you wore women's underwear, they'd make you seminarian of the year."
Bishop Trautman's reaction? Quote-- "Because of your allegations and the scandalous manner in which you have publicized your thoughts, I hereby forbid you to exercise any priestly ministry in the Diocese of Erie until further notice."
Interesting. Seems the good bishop has a bit of a problem with recognizing the obvious. "Many" now mean "all"... a priesthood rife with homosexuals shouldn't be discussed, even though 80% of the recent sexual scandal was homosexual (and not pedophilial) in nature. Sure --- OK.
And the same Trautman who when speaking to the Federation of Diocesan Liturgical Commissions, said;
"When we encounter those who advocate a 'reform of the reform', we must say, 'Do not quench the Spirit'. The Holy Spirit was present at Vatican II and gave us new liturgical direction. When we encounter people who harken back to rigidity in rubrics, we must say. 'Do not quench the Spirit'. When inculturation is denied and one liturgical form is forced on all, we must say, 'Do not quench the Spirit'. When the Scripture translations in our Lectionary are flawed and not proclaimable, we must say, 'Give us the richness of God's Word: Do not quench the Spirit'. The Holy Spirit prompted the renewal and reform of the liturgy. Now, more than ever, we must say, 'Do not quench the Spirit'".
martin luther couldn't have said it better.
posted by Kevin Whiteman at
12:37 PM
4 Comments:
Cassock wearing is one of the top perks of being a Priest as near as I can tell, how can anyone frown upon it?
Sheesh people, open a dictionary.
Wasn't it you who, not too long ago, didn't want to look at the text containing the 'gates of hell'? You assumed gehenna in your exposition when the original uses the word hades.
Furthermore you made sarcastic reference to the fact that you might have the text misunderstood.
Sheesh ..., open a dictionary.
You hold these ministers responsible for something you yourself won't engage in.
I only referred to your original post - I didn't refer to your reply to me declining the debate at all.
Seems you are so fired up ... you don't understand what I'm saying, I suggest the dictionary is of no help to you.
The last comment from Thomas has been deleted. Either Thomas doesn't understand the english language... or he is unbelievably stupid.
Let me say this yet again... I run this blog. No one else. There is no way in heaven or hell that I will allow my blog to be hijacked by someone else... period.
Any further posts by anyone trying to take over my site will find themselves on a one way trip to Delete-Land.
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