Tuesday, February 16, 2010

That Idiot Obama Is Going To Get Marines Killed
And Brits and Canadians and Afghans

I've already posted how this idiot of a president purposfully held back 25% of what our troops need to win in Afghanistan. But to make matters worse, he's now tying one hand behind their backs.

Here's some of a rather interesting article from MSNBC; (Emphasis mine)
Troops: Strict war rules slow Afghan offensive
Rules were imposed to spare civilian casualties and win public support

MARJAH, Afghanistan - Some American and Afghan troops say they're fighting the latest offensive in Afghanistan with a handicap — strict rules that routinely force them to hold their fire.

Although details of the new guidelines are classified to keep insurgents from reading them, U.S. troops say the Taliban are keenly aware of the restrictions.

"I understand the reason behind it, but it's so hard to fight a war like this," said Lance Cpl. Travis Anderson, 20, of Altoona, Iowa. "They're using our rules of engagement against us," he said, adding that his platoon had repeatedly seen men drop their guns into ditches and walk away to blend in with civilians.

If a man emerges from a Taliban hideout after shooting erupts, U.S. troops say they cannot fire at him if he is not seen carrying a weapon — or if they did not personally watch him drop one.

No quick air support
What this means, some contend, is that a militant can fire at them, then set aside his weapon and walk freely out of a compound, possibly toward a weapons cache in another location. It was unclear how often this has happened. In another example, Marines pinned down by a barrage of insurgent bullets say they can't count on quick air support because it takes time to positively identify shooters.

"This is difficult," Lance Cpl. Michael Andrejczuk, 20, of Knoxville, Tenn., said Monday. "We are trained like when we see something, we obliterate it. But here, we have to see them and when we do, they don't have guns."


Blogger Sonja said...

What is that jackass doing anyway? Is that supposed to be a salute...or is he listening for an echo?

2:34 PM  
Blogger JLS said...

The solution is really simple. Train herds of pigs to run into insurgent buildings. The insurgents will then run out, firing their weapons at the pigs. With weapons in hand, they then are identifiable targets.

2:42 PM  
Blogger Volpius Leonius said...

Changing the ROE without changing the way soldiers fight accordingly was always asking for trouble.

This is what happens when you have politicians making military decisions based on politics.

I can understand the ROE and it might even be a good idea but if your going to have it then trying to use the troops in the traditional way is not going to be effective.

No one thought about that though a long as the politicians can tell the world how they are reducing civilian casualties because you know they really love Afghans that's all that seems to matter.

We need to fight them the way they are fighting us and we need more troops on the ground.

If we are at war we should all be at war until the war is won.

Sending 47,000 troops to war when you have over a 1,000,000 makes little sense to me its like a boxer trying to win a fight only using his jab. He can still win but its going to take a long time and there ain't going to be a knock-out.

3:34 PM  
Blogger JLS said...

Sonja, it's called a "bronx cheer", thumb on nose, waving fingers.

9:09 PM  

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