Saturday, February 13, 2010

Sometimes A ComBox Posting Takes On A Life Of It's Own
This is one of them

Helmet tip to the enigmatic Patrick

I recently did a posting in regards to the Bishop of Little Rock, Arkansas defaming to late General Robert E. Lee.

I've just received another combox posting from the same man who alerted me to the Rbt E. Lee attack;
Here is a 12/6/10 Taylor homily that is just as anti military and anti American as the Lee smear. Read this knowing that Taylor was a conscientious objector in the 60's. He has professed it many times publicly. His pathalogical hypocrisy and convoluted interpretation of history are on full display in this article. Most of his social teachings in Arkansas are heavily laced with a Marxist strain of liberation theology. In my opinion, his world view holds white capitalists as the predominate oppressor he references in this article., I went to that particular web page... and a more broad-brushed, anti-American, half-truthed liberal drivel put to paper, you'll be hard pressed to find. Here's some of it; (Emphasis mine)
Everyone knew it was suicide to defy the Romans and King Herod, their puppet, so they just acted like confronting these evils was none of their business. John the Baptist, however, believed that nothing is impossible for God and that faithfulness to God requires that we confront evil, regardless of what it may cost us personally, even at the cost of our very life.

So John did what he could to make straight the path of freedom, level oppressors and call people to conversion before it was too late.

Our world today is not that much different from that of previous generations.

People and nations -- including our own -- continue to pursue power, possessions, pleasure and prestige at the expense of the poor and vulnerable. Sexual immorality -- and even worse, abortion -- continues to cause tremendous damage to individual lives and to our society as a whole.

And isn't it true that we mostly act like confronting these evils is none of our business? Pearl Harbor should have taught us the foolishness of failing to confront evil until it's too late. And no matter what kind of evil.

Evil destroys, enslaves, oppresses and exploits. Remember, nothing is impossible for God. Like John the Baptist, we too are called to do what we can -- in our time -- to make straight the path of freedom, level oppressors and call people to conversion, before it's too late.
How dare this man. How dare he.

I won't get into the nuts and bolt of how patently full of shit his "homily" is, suffice it to say that I'll give two basic reminders to him of that horrible nation that he is so fortunate to reside in -- the same nation that "continue to pursue power, possessions, pleasure and prestige at the expense of the poor and vulnerable".

1. Presider Taylor, millions of Americans have died to liberate oppressed peoples throughout the entire world. You've desecrated not only their memory, but their ultimate sacrifice as well. You should be ashamed of yourself.

2. Presider Taylor, if this nation is so driven by such an evil as you've described, when why is it that millions of those who purposefully break the emigration laws of this nation (thus classifying themselves as 'evil') continue to throng to this very same evil country? The same law-breakers that you're so enamoured with?

Hypocrisy, thy name is Taylor.


Blogger JLS said...

There must be more to this bishop than what meets the eye in his homily.

After all, aren't we Americans now at war with the socialist elites who are subverting our nation with immorality and abortion?

On the surface of the homily, it seems accurate, although slanted in a way that would lead to further reading and the conclusion you make, Vir.

I can see that Bp Taylor ... well, sometimes this type of rhetoric is addressed to audiences which already are poised in a certain political direction ... Perhaps that is the subtlety of it.

It could be edited to be specific in its target ... that would make the difference, wouldn't you think?

I can see that he is polarizing society, and not quite articulating it, but leaving it for the audience to determine who is blameworthy. Maybe the presumption is those who gain by moral ways of hard work and good decisions and blessings. This could be an excellent example to use in a course on rhetoric, no?

Now, what is the thing about Bp Taylor having trashed Gen Lee? Maybe that is the last straw. Can you post the reference to that? I just discovered that my late Grannie's old claim that she descended from the PGT Beauregard line has some credibility to it ... long story though; it makes me interested in Catholicism and the Conferacy.

4:15 PM  
Blogger Vir Speluncae Catholicus said...

Here's the ref to Rbt E. Lee that you asked about --

4:19 PM  
Blogger Simplex Vir said...


Maybe it is because I have read only the snippet you gave us of this Homily, but, I don't disagree with anything THIS SNIPPET says.

It is true that this country can no longer face evil. It is true that abortion and sexual immorality is damaging lives. It is true that OUR OWN COUNTRY puts the focus on possessions, pleasure, and prestige.

Evil does destroy, enslave, and oppress.

I cannot tell from this snippet that his is indicating that America is the cause of it all.

I think you have missed the mark here. Show me something else!

At least the words here do not appear to me to make the valiant sacrifices of the American people seem evil.

4:21 PM  
Blogger VSO said...

I'm with SV Cavey in the sense that if I didn't know the context I'd think that this was coming from from an Orthodox bishop. I guess I'll have to read the whole thing.

6:19 PM  
Blogger Vir Speluncae Catholicus said...

SV and VSO,
That's why I put the link there. If you'd like to read the entire thing, it's just a cut and paste away.

Everyone knows my aversion to long posts... as well as me consistently placing reference to source documentation.

6:27 PM  
Blogger JLS said...

""General Lee may have had many good qualities and can only be judged in the context of the world he lived in, but the bottom line is that his efforts served to promote the culture of death..."

Where does this bishop come off with "his efforts promoted the culture of death"?

Does he think that Lincoln would have emancipated the slaves if there had been no war?

Or, does he think that men and constitutional governed peoples serve the purpose of death by resisting tyranny?

Why do the blacks insist on being so ethnocentric ... it's all about them, according to them. I never read Dr. Alan Keyes talking like that, but then maybe he is a mature man.

6:42 PM  
Blogger Smiley said...


I must be missing something, this sermon seems fine to me except for the Pearl Habour line which is a bit messy. I shall read the whole thing and repost. I know you dont like doing long posts but sometimes you need to editorialize or post the whole thing this is not working out really.

9:01 AM  
Blogger Smiley said...

I read the whole thing and I still don't get it. All i can see is that he is saying that the American government did not go into WW2 early it waited till Pearl Harbour before it got into the war. Is this wrong or is he twisting history here I dont know im not a historian.
The rest of the stuff about what nations pursue is accurate. All nations pursue wealth and happiness, I guess he says our nations because it would be silly to point to other nations, maybe he could have said all nations.
Im missing something I dont know what your getting at.

9:05 AM  
Blogger Vir Speluncae Catholicus said...

This individual wants it both ways. He condemns the US for not getting involved in WWII earlier, but conveniently fails to mention that we embargoed iron and oil to Japan in reaction to their atrocities in China... as well that we reenforced Iceland and conducted convoy escorts in response to Germany's hostility in Europe.

Both we did prior to Pearl Harbor. The reason we didn't get involved earlier is simply because it wasn't our fight. Presider Taylor has wonderful 20/20 hindsight. It's easy to condemn almost 60 years after the fact.

He also didn't simply say that we simply "pursue wealth and happiness". He stated that we do such "at the expense of the poor and vulnerable". Oh, really?

I guess all those millions upon millions of taxpayer $$ sent to Haiti, South Asia during the tsumani, billions in foreign aid every year, etc, etc, illustrate how horrible and greedy this nation is.

I'm sick to death of frauds like Taylor. If he thinks America is such a horride place... then he can leave.

9:50 AM  
Blogger JLS said...

If nations did not pursue wealth and happiness, then the poor would not exist due to lack of food and exposure to the elements, and being trounced by people who were pissed off that there was no wealth or happiness to pursue.

Yes, I missed this classic Marxist pitch that the rich ride the backs of the poor. Jesus says the poor will always be with us, and He just says that the rich should help them. If all the money and wealth were divided up in equal portions to each person, then after a few weeks there wouldn't be any of it left.

11:36 AM  
Blogger Smiley said...

thanks for clarifying the historical matter. I did not know that.

3:04 PM  
Blogger Vir Speluncae Catholicus said...

No prob, Smiley. Happy to oblige!!

3:16 PM  

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