No Gerald, It Isn't Just You
Our first ever honorary Catholic Caveman from that Sceptered Isle
I love dry wit. And this guy makes the Sahara look like a rain forest. Where Anna Haycroft left off, Gerald Warner picks up. And I'm going to violate my own rule of not posting entire articles. Yes... this one's that good.
From The Telegraph (of London); (Emphasis mine)Is it just me?
Gerald Warner
Fifty years on: time to revisit and reform the Second Vatican Catastrophe
Benedict XVI grows in stature as his reign progresses. To the momentous achievement of the motu proprio Summorum Pontificum, freeing the Tridentine Mass, he has now added the sagacious and just lifting of the excommunications imposed on the four bishops of the Society of St Pius X.
Although there was widespread scepticism about the validity of those censures, their lifting removes a roadblock to the restoration of the Church after the damage wrought by the Second Vatican Catastrophe. Not everyone is happy about the pardoning of the bishops. The staff of The Tablet [the uber-liberal rag of the English & Welsh Conference of Bishops] are rumoured to be on suicide watch, while the malign spirit of those who, without any conscious irony, denominate themselves "liberals" was well illustrated by Gianni Gennari, an Italian journalist.
Gennari is a laicized priest, now married. Fighting back tears, he responded to news of the lifting of the excommunications: "It is a tragedy, the complete debacle of the Church!... I am disappointed, stunned, scandalised... In this case there is no place for the mercy of Christ"... Of course not. The Modernists have always excluded from any kind of mercy those faithful Catholics who adhere unreservedly to the Deposit of Faith. Anything that reduces the likes of Gennari to tears has to be good news.
Over the past few days, some blinkeredly optimistic souls have been trying - without much real hope - to persuade Catholics to "celebrate" the 50th anniversary of the announcement of the Second Vatican Council. This was the great "renewal", when the Holy Ghost inspired the Church to aggiornamento, or modernisation. What form has that Renewal taken?
In England and Wales in 1964, at the end of the Council, there were 137,673 Catholic baptisms; in 2003 the figure was 56,180. In 1964 there were 45,592 Catholic marriages, in 2003 there were 11,013. Mass attendance has fallen by 40 per cent. In "Holy" Ireland, only 48 per cent of so-called Catholics go to Mass. In France, there were 35,000 priests in 1980; today there are fewer than 19,000. Renewal?
In the United States, in 1965, there were 1,575 priestly ordinations; in 2002 there were 450 - a 350 per cent decline. In 1965 there were 49,000 seminarians, in 2002 just 4,700. Today 15 per cent of US parishes are without priests. Only 25 per cent of America's nominal Catholics attend Mass. Worse still is the erosion of faith among those who ludicrously describe themselves as Catholics. Among US Catholics aged 18-44 (the children of Vatican II) as many as 70 per cent say they believe the Eucharist is merely a "symbolic reminder" of Christ.
To describe this unprecedented collapse of the Church as "renewal" is insane; to attribute it to the operation of the Holy Ghost is blasphemous. The Catholic Church is in the same position as an alcoholic: until it admits to the problem, no cure is possible. The problem is Vatican II.
Pope Benedict himself has expressed reservations about at least one Council document. The only remotely celebratory response to the Council's 50th anniversary would be to appoint a commission of orthodox theologians to scrutinise all of Vatican II's documents and correct their errors. It is time to revisit and reform this council that has brought forth such poisonous fruits.
Our first ever honorary Catholic Caveman from that Sceptered Isle
I love dry wit. And this guy makes the Sahara look like a rain forest. Where Anna Haycroft left off, Gerald Warner picks up. And I'm going to violate my own rule of not posting entire articles. Yes... this one's that good.
From The Telegraph (of London); (Emphasis mine)
Gerald Warner
Fifty years on: time to revisit and reform the Second Vatican Catastrophe
Benedict XVI grows in stature as his reign progresses. To the momentous achievement of the motu proprio Summorum Pontificum, freeing the Tridentine Mass, he has now added the sagacious and just lifting of the excommunications imposed on the four bishops of the Society of St Pius X.
Although there was widespread scepticism about the validity of those censures, their lifting removes a roadblock to the restoration of the Church after the damage wrought by the Second Vatican Catastrophe. Not everyone is happy about the pardoning of the bishops. The staff of The Tablet [the uber-liberal rag of the English & Welsh Conference of Bishops] are rumoured to be on suicide watch, while the malign spirit of those who, without any conscious irony, denominate themselves "liberals" was well illustrated by Gianni Gennari, an Italian journalist.
Gennari is a laicized priest, now married. Fighting back tears, he responded to news of the lifting of the excommunications: "It is a tragedy, the complete debacle of the Church!... I am disappointed, stunned, scandalised... In this case there is no place for the mercy of Christ"... Of course not. The Modernists have always excluded from any kind of mercy those faithful Catholics who adhere unreservedly to the Deposit of Faith. Anything that reduces the likes of Gennari to tears has to be good news.
Over the past few days, some blinkeredly optimistic souls have been trying - without much real hope - to persuade Catholics to "celebrate" the 50th anniversary of the announcement of the Second Vatican Council. This was the great "renewal", when the Holy Ghost inspired the Church to aggiornamento, or modernisation. What form has that Renewal taken?
In England and Wales in 1964, at the end of the Council, there were 137,673 Catholic baptisms; in 2003 the figure was 56,180. In 1964 there were 45,592 Catholic marriages, in 2003 there were 11,013. Mass attendance has fallen by 40 per cent. In "Holy" Ireland, only 48 per cent of so-called Catholics go to Mass. In France, there were 35,000 priests in 1980; today there are fewer than 19,000. Renewal?
In the United States, in 1965, there were 1,575 priestly ordinations; in 2002 there were 450 - a 350 per cent decline. In 1965 there were 49,000 seminarians, in 2002 just 4,700. Today 15 per cent of US parishes are without priests. Only 25 per cent of America's nominal Catholics attend Mass. Worse still is the erosion of faith among those who ludicrously describe themselves as Catholics. Among US Catholics aged 18-44 (the children of Vatican II) as many as 70 per cent say they believe the Eucharist is merely a "symbolic reminder" of Christ.
To describe this unprecedented collapse of the Church as "renewal" is insane; to attribute it to the operation of the Holy Ghost is blasphemous. The Catholic Church is in the same position as an alcoholic: until it admits to the problem, no cure is possible. The problem is Vatican II.
Pope Benedict himself has expressed reservations about at least one Council document. The only remotely celebratory response to the Council's 50th anniversary would be to appoint a commission of orthodox theologians to scrutinise all of Vatican II's documents and correct their errors. It is time to revisit and reform this council that has brought forth such poisonous fruits.
12 Comments:
Great article.
Awesome article. Lucky guy. It is my dream to someday be an honorary Caveman...Caveperson...Cavewoman...Cavette?
Warner rocks. I love his articles in the Telegraph. Is there one lay writer in the United states to match his style and wit? Well...the caveman comes clsoe..lol
All the startling stats aside, I do believe that there is only one stat that really damns the idea that Vatican II brought about any renewal in the Church. And that one stat is the tragic loss of faith and Catholicity amongst the Catholic faithful. In the last forty years, Cleric and lay Catholic alike have for the most part left the Church and have in one way or another rejected the deposit of faith. Even those who sit in the pews are not really Catholic anymore. Roman protestants is more accurate.
It seems to me that the only thing Vatican II did is it allowed the Modernists to take control of the Church and it allowed the Institutional Church to be influenced and reshaped by the world. After 500 years of fighting, I think that Vatican II can be adequately characterized as the Church waving the white flag of defeat to the Modernists and deciding it was going to bow out of the fight.
As is evident by documents such as Humanae Vitae, Evangelium Vitae, and Summorum Pontificum, we can all rest assured that the Holy Spirit is still guiding the ship. Let us just pray that the Holy Spirit's agents and our shepherds once again start listening to Him.
Let's not forget the huge number of "Catholics" who voted for Obama.
We need to face the fact that we are living in the "post Christian" era and it stinks...
The Post Hoc/Propter Hoc monitum-flag is waving.
Granted that V.II had a lot of problematic passages (and genuinely demonic "interpreters")--but I maintain that the loss of Faith has to do with the West's financial comfort.
What need of salvation do we have?
Yes, V.II contributed...
This is OT, but a priest friend sent me this, claiming it was the work of a kid from Arizona. I dunno. Might or might not be authentic. But whoever wrote it has a point.
Now I sit me down in school
Where praying is against the rule
For this great nation under God
Finds mention of Him very odd.
If Scripture now the class recites,
It violates the Bill of Rights.
And anytime my head I bow
Becomes a Federal matter now.
Our hair can be purple, orange or green,
That's no offense; it's a freedom scene.
The law is specific, the law is precise.
Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice.
For praying in a public hall
Might offend someone with no faith at all.
In silence alone we must meditate,
God's name is prohibited by the state.
We're allowed to cuss and dress like freaks,
And pierce our noses, tongues and cheeks..
They've outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible.
To quote the Good Book makes me liable.
We can elect a pregnant Senior Queen,
And the 'unwed daddy,' our Senior King.
It's 'inappropriate' to teach right from wrong,
We're taught that such 'judgments' do not belong.
We can get our condoms and birth controls,
Study witchcraft, vampires and totem poles.
But the Ten Commandments are not allowed,
No word of God must reach this crowd.
It's scary here I must confess,
When chaos reigns the school's a mess.
So, Lord, this silent plea I make:
Should I be shot; My soul please take!
Amen
A lot of the pre V II Catholics were CINOs (Catholics in Name Only) BUT were too afraid to not go to church. When the Church vasillated on what it stood for, they figured it really didn't matter.
Ironically, they still are CINOs, when they're actually non-believers. I'd say "Good Ridance", but the loss of one soul is a tragedy.
God have mercy on their souls.
Excellent article! And Mom, I think the official title is "Cavebabes..."
Heck yeah!
Kit,
Thanks for the clarification. I'm not sure I qualify for the "babe" title 3 babies back. I would be happy with being an honorary Cave-ette.
Can I just say man-crush?
The suppression of the Oath against Modernism should've been a pretty good tip-off.
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