Thursday, November 20, 2008

Tales From The Governor's Mansion
Who knew the Crypt Keeper was Catholic? You make the call

Ya think her parish priest will correct her? Hell no... she'll be made Parishoner of The Year. All that admonish the sinner Works of Mercy stuff is soooooo pre-Vatican II! Oh, and someone remind that bonehead that a Rosary isn't a fashion accessory.

Here's the entire article from The California Catholic Daily; (Emphasis mine) “I pick and choose”
California’s First Lady says she’s ‘a Cafeteria Catholic’

“I start every one of my days praying,” says Maria Shriver, wife of California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. “I go to church every week. I went to Catholic schools my entire life.” But, says Shriver, when it comes to Church teachings, “I pick and choose… I think I’m probably a ‘Cafeteria Catholic.’”

Shriver’s comments came during a lengthy interview on the Washington Post’s video blog ‘On Faith,’ taped during an Oct. 22 women’s conference at the Long Beach Convention Center. Shriver, wearing a rosary around her neck, was interviewed by Washington Post columnist Sally Quinn and co-host Jon Meacham of Newsweek. Portions of the interview were posted Nov. 17 on “wowOwow,” a web site that says it is “run and written by Lesley Stahl, Peggy Noonan, Liz Smith, Joni Evans, Mary Wells, Sheila Nevins, Joan Juliet Buck, Whoopi Goldberg, Julia Reed, Joan Ganz Cooney, Judith Martin, Candice Bergen, Lily Tomlin, Jane Wagner, and Marlo Thomas.”

Shriver and the governor are members of St. Monica’s parish in Santa Monica, and she told Quinn and Meacham during the interview, “My pastor (Msgr. Lloyd Torgerson) is a huge part of my life.” But her closeness to her pastor, her regular church attendance and her Catholic education don’t seem to have discouraged her from taking positions distinctly at odds with the magisterium. “I have a dispute with a lot of the Catholic Church,” said Shriver in the interview. “Even though I consider myself a Catholic in good standing, I disagree with a lot of the teachings of the Church.”

Shriver spelled out some of her disagreements: “I don’t believe that if someone’s divorced they shouldn’t get Communion; I don’t believe that people who are gay shouldn’t be accepted into the Church… I’m pro-choice, I believe women should have that right.” She also said “women should have a larger role in the Catholic Church.”

What she does like about Catholicism, said Shriver, are its teachings on “compassion” and “social justice.”


Blogger PreVat2 said...

Once again folks, Vatican II opened the windows of the Church to the world....and in return, we got "Catholics" like this.

Please, Holy Father. Let's have a Second Council of Trent...and soon!!

7:40 PM  
Blogger Subvet said...

Hell, she ain't Catholic. Everything she says is openly embraced by the War Department's former church, which is Methodist.

The WD is currently in RCIA, she'll take communion early next year. Some good Christians are actually being driven across the Tiber to us, all is not yet lost.

8:43 PM  
Blogger Adrienne said...

It seems she didn't study too hard in those fine Catholic schools she attended. Being divorced does not mean you can not receive communion.

9:46 PM  
Blogger Simplex Vir said...

Let's have a little experiment shall we. Let's take the same philosphy and apply it to other areanas.

1. I consider myself a lawful citizen, I however disagree that I should be convicted of stealing if I take something of someone else's for my profit. I really don't think speed limits are necessary. Oh and men should be allowed to urinate where and when ever they want.

2. I consider myself to be a pro football player. I however think that running fast should not be a measurement of skill. Also if I don't like being tackled then no one should be allowed to tackle me. I should be paid the same as the highest paid athlete. Matter of fact all athletes should be paid the same.

3. I consider myself to be jounalist. Of course I disagree with having to check facts and double check sources. Also if I want to take literary license with a subject or remove all objectivity then that should be my perrogative.

HEHE OK, the last one is true. Thought I would sneek that one in for laughs.

10:24 PM  
Blogger Al said...

When I see someone like Maria Shriver I have to remind myself that "Catholics' like this have always been arround. Arius & the Arian Bishops pop to mind. (See Jesus' parable on the "Wheat & the Tares" for more on this.)

That having been said, her comments prove that she is not only a cafeteria Catholic but one who hasn't even looked at the menu to know what is really there.

1: Her comment on diverced Catholics not receiving communion. If a Catholic is divorces/ he/she can still receive communion. It is only when the person remarries without the previous marriage being annulled that he/she can't receive communion.

2:Gays are accepted in the Church on the same basis as every other one of us sinners is accepted. REPENT of your sins & follow Christ.

3: Larger role for women? What could be larger than being the mother of God as Mary is? & having gone to a Catholuic school when the Sisters were Sisters, don't tell me that women in the Church are powerless.

4: As for compassion, I guess that her definition of compassion means allowing someone to burn in Hell for their sins rather than call them to repent. Sorry, but real compassion means you proclaim the Gospel truth, call sin sin & do what you can by the grace of God to help them find the right path, not the "Highway to Hell".

If you are going to oppose Catholic teaching, then know what it is you are opposing. She just proves how poorly she was taught in the 1st place.

12:23 AM  
Blogger Joe of St. Thérèse said...

There's an ecclesiatical community for her. The Anglicans.

5:19 AM  
Blogger bobw45 said...

She looks like she has lived long and been driven hard, doesn't she.

6:20 AM  
Blogger Cookie said...

Wow, Al beat me to EVERYTHING I was going to say. I hate dumb Catholics who say they disagree with the Church's teachings and then proceed to unconsciously admit that they have NO IDEA what the Church actually says.

2:34 PM  
Blogger Esther said...

When I read this to my husband he remarked "A pick and choose Catholic? She's a Protestant by definition."

8:50 PM  
Blogger Marie said...

Then it is not the Catholic Church she believes in but herself...God help her(seriously!).

If you let go of One Principle then you lose ALL. If you let go of one Moral then you have NONE! You do in fact 'fall for anything' and this woman is PROOF!

Peace to you:)


11:40 PM  
Blogger MaryW said...

The Governator's house needs a copy of the CCC - how can she possibly form her conscience if she is so totally uninformed? As for the pro-choice comment, (I'm Maria, aren't I hip and modern) what part of intrinsically evil doesn't she get? Grandma Rose is rolling in her grave - so is Uncle Jack who opposed abortion.

She can call herself a Catholic, but she behaves and thinks like a Protestant.

5:54 PM  
Blogger Lola said...

My mother loves the Kennedy's. Oh how she can go on and on about how Joe Kennedy raised those kids to serve this country. Oh, and the Kennedy legacy. It pains me that the Kennedy's are always held up to America as a strong "Catholic Family".

But, as I've gotten older I've noticed something about Social Justice. It stinks. Love of God will make us work for justice, but we won't re-invent what that justice is such as "Freedom of Choice". That is the farthest from Freedom and Choice. Discuss...

I wouldn't slam the Protestants. Many of them are on the the same page as Cathololics on many issues such as abortion, gay marriage and such. For whatever reason they just don't get Catholocism. Yet.

A lousy Cafeteria Catholic will never be a Protestant, they just won't be Cathoic.

7:00 PM  
Blogger Lola said...

Subvet Congratulations on your soon to be Catholic War Department! God Bless Her!

7:02 PM  
Blogger Viator Catholicus said...

What diocese is Santa Monica? LA?

10:24 PM  
Blogger Catholic Mom said...

Unfortunately, Ms. Shriver's home parish is in the diocese of Los Angeles so we can forget about Cardinal Mahoney offering any correction. However, this interview was done in the Washington Post which is within the boundaries of Archbishop Wuerl. Normally he says let the "home bishop" deal with this but since it was published in his archdiocese, perhaps he would be willing to speak out. I have written to him imploring him to correct Ms. Shriver's assertion that one can be a Catholic in good standing while discarding large portions of Catholic Church teaching. If anyone else would like to send Archbishop Wuerl such words of encouragement you can email him at In any case, pray for all our bishops.

9:23 PM  

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