Sunday, September 16, 2007

We Interrupt This Program For This Special Bulletin
This just in...

Despite what The California Catholic Daily just reported on, priests really don't need "permission" from their bishops to celebrate the Traditional Latin Mass. Who says so? Rome, that's who.

Here's a bit from Catholic World News, followed by a rather disconcerting comment that was posted on the CWN site;

No more permission needed for Latin Mass, cardinal says

Rome, Sep. 14, 2007 ( - With the formal implementation of Summorum Pontificum, the Pope's motu proprio providing wider access to the 1962 Roman Missal, diocesan priests do not need permission to celebrate the Latin Mass, a top Vatican official has stated.

Cardinal Dario Castrillon-Hoyos-- the president of the Ecclesia Dei commission, which supervises Vatican outreach to traditionalist Catholics-- says that "from this point, priests can decide to celebrate the Mass using the old rite, without permission from the Holy See or the bishop."

In an interview with Vatican Radio on September 13, broadcast just before the motu proprio officially took effect, Cardinal Castrillon Hoyos explained that Pope Benedict's motu proprio affirms the right of any priest to use the "extraordinary form" of the Latin liturgy. "It is, therefore, unnecessary to ask for any other permission," he said.

Some diocesan bishops have cautioned their priests against using the 1962 Missal without explicit permission from the diocese. But the president of the Ecclesia Dei commission-- which would hear any appeals regarding the new liturgical rules-- contradicted that notion in his Vatican Radio appearance. While affirming the bishop's authority to resolve any liturgical conflicts within his diocese, the Colombian cardinal said that the bishop should exercise that power "without negating the right that the Pope has given to the entire Church."

Cardinal Castrillon Hoyos said that the motu proprio involves "no big change" in the liturgy of the Roman Church, since the older liturgy was never banned. Vatican II affirmed the freedoms of the faithful, he said, and one such freedom, which Pope Benedict has now confirmed, was access to the older liturgical form.

"Nothing is imposed on anyone" by Summorum Pontificum, the cardinal said. In allowing for greater use of the old Missal, he explained, Pope Benedict is merely "opening a possibility to the faithful who request it."

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Posted by: Leo XIII - Sep. 15, 2007 10:33 AM ET USA
Such great fanfare over the motu proprio? It is doomed because liberals in chanceries all over the world will simply dig in until there is a new Holy Father. Never underestimate the power of entrenched bureaucracies. The Ancient Mass will never become established in my diocese because our force of 60's priests will quietly oppose it. It may take hold in a few places, but that will not be enough to catalyze the reform of the reform. Pessimistic? Yes. But realistic, I am afraid.

I hate to admit it, but there's a lot of truth to what Leo says. Unless The Holy Father sends a message (in Cavemanese: jump real high and stomp on their necks with both feet... figuratively, of course) he can count on transparent/phony lip-service and out-right disloyalty from a number of what his professed "loyal" bishops. This is what so-called collegiality spawns.

If a bunch of Protestant-mind set bishops want to play authority chicken with The Holy Father... bring it on. I for one would love to see Pope Benedict break out his Boomstick. (Can't you just picture His Holiness doing this to some of our more progressive bishops? In that light, that makes this scene all the more hilarious)


Blogger Vir Speluncae Orthodoxae said...

Great movie. And I'm afraid Leo is right. I don't think B16 has the guts to really do it.

9:49 AM  
Blogger Vir Speluncae Catholicus said...

I don't think B16 has the guts to really do it.

Oh, I think he does. Although I'd like to see him "Caveman it", we all know that he'll go about it quietly and subtlety.

He's done more to correct the abuses of "The Spirit" of Vatican II in 2 short years than Pope John Paul II did in over 25. And don't think for a second that he hasn't pissed off a whole buncha people. Good for him!!

The changes just aren't coming... they're already here.

12:40 PM  
Blogger Alli said...

Huh. I love that it's "...., Cardinal says." Pretty sure the Pope said it - as a journalism major, my heart hurts for that headline.

Saw His Excellency again today, he said that he would talk to H.E. Bishop Jugis about the mysterious silence of the Charlotte Diocese concerning MP. Can't wait.

12:43 PM  
Blogger Former Altar Boy said...

I'll have more confidence in the changes when he replaces Levada in the Curia and gets rid of Mahoney.

2:26 PM  
Blogger Vir Speluncae Orthodoxae said...

Just a Tad off topic.

Just saw the Latin Mass today in person at a church dinner. Mrs. Odox Caveman and I were disappointed that it wasn't a sung Mass, which meant no chant. The mute button was on. THe priest mostly said things to himself and the servers. Other than that:

For once she fit in (at a Catholic church) because she always wears something on her head, and so were the other women. But for awhile I wasn't sure we weren't at our church. The priest and ALL MALE servers faced God the whole time, they did a bunch of movements and gestures, and we actually got to respond in Latin. The priest did read the epistle and Gospel in English though. There were points where the priest read in Latin with everyone else (including me) responding. The whole place was quiet, except for the constant screaming kids being taken in and out. The whole hour (it flew because of no singing) had a great feel of reverence and mysticism, just like I'm used to. It was the first time I have ever seen no women involved in a Catholic mass, especially poorly dressed ones.

I sing for a N.O Catholic church and it felt NOTHING like this. It in no way resembled a prot service, and other than the obvious differences (No iconostasis, an altar one can't walk around etc) it felt just like an Orthodox service. I was able to follow it with no problems. I'm used to standing throughout though rather than kneeling. Took my legs awhile to recover. We did have qualms with no wine being offered, even though Pope St. Gregory the Great said it'd be acceptible-I don't recall his reasons.

Now that I've seen it for myself, why in the name of God would someone want to screw with it and replace it with a service that looks and feels like a prot one?

8:56 PM  
Blogger Vir Speluncae Catholicus said...

I'm glad you found it to be an uplifting spiritual experience.

You might want to take a gander at this;

Any wonder why Pope Benedict referred to the Eastern Orthodox as "Sister Churches"? I tell ya, bro... there's lotsa stuff going on behind the scenes btwn Rome and Moscow.

I think a Religious Re-Awakening for Europe isn't that far off.

3:28 PM  
Blogger Coffee Catholic said...

YES!!! WHOOOO! The Holy Papa need to see this!!

9:57 AM  
Blogger Coffee Catholic said...

"I think a Religious Re-Awakening for Europe isn't that far off."

By God Himself, I sure hope so. I live next door to Europe. Hopefully it will spill over into Britain!!

10:00 AM  

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