One Example Of Courage...
One of cowardice?
Poor Bishop Cordileone, we hardly knew ye.
First we have this disgusting article from The California Catholic Daily;
Bishop Cordileone’s Masses Threatened
Militant Disruptions in the Works?
Editor: The following post appeared in GayBuzz.blogspot on November 28. Included here are the comments on the blog.
Last week Bishop Salvatore Cordileone of the Catholic Diocese of Oakland signed on to the National Organization for Marriage’s new anti-gay manifesto, the Manhattan Declaration.
It is time we let Bishop Cordileone know there are consequences for his actions. Is anyone up for a rally in front of the Oakland Diocese or a disruption of services? Let me know and I’m happy to help organize. Then comes this just... pathetic article, again, from the California Catholic Daily. Here's some of it;
Support for defiant nuns?
California’s bishops adopt ‘statement of appreciation for Women Religious’ in midst of widespread defiance by U.S. congregations to Vatican visitations
Both the National Catholic Reporter and dissident groups like Call to Action have noted a statement issued by California’s bishops on Oct. 29 praising women religious in the state, interpreting the timing of the statement as support for the defiant nuns.
“The California bishops voted last week to pass a statement of support on behalf of U.S. women religious who are facing a Vatican investigation,” said the Reporter in a Nov. 5 story. “Word of the support came in a letter dated Nov. 2 written by Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahony.” The cardinal told the nuns, “We are all aware of the special anxieties which surround our women religious these days and I am writing to offer you my prayers of gratitude and my support for all of your members,” according to the Reporter. “The bishops of California met last week and passed a statement of support for all of you, and I am pleased to send a copy of that statement to you… I can honestly state that there would not exist our Catholic schools, hospitals, and social service outreach apostolates without you.”
In the lead-up to the Nov. 16-19 meeting of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops in Baltimore, the dissident group Call to Action launched a national campaign in an effort to flood the bishops with phone calls and letters of support for women religious in the U.S. In an email, Call to Action executive director Jim FitzGerald wrote, “As the Vatican continues its investigation of nuns, Cardinal Rode has been forced to announce the withdrawal of certain controversial sections on the questionnaires he issued to women's religious communities. Additionally, the California bishops issued a statement of support for women religious during this time of trial. Your letters, calls and other support for women religious are helping. Let's keep it up!”
The email said Call To Action “has united with more than 20 other Catholic organizations in support of this national signature ad. With a $15 donation to help defray the publishing cost, your name will be added to a statement of support that will be published in a national newspaper in December.” The link to the ad provided in the email leads to a website called “Catholics Speak Out.” While the main text on the page is devoted to describing how wonderful U.S. Women religious are, the left-hand column of the page describes the group’s views: “We support: Gender equality, including ordination for women; The civil rights of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender persons; An end to the rule of celibacy for Catholic clergy; Full communion for divorced and remarried Catholics; Due process for church employees and theologians; A strong church voice on issues of social justice.” No, this "statement of support" is more than just some innocuous , generic pat-on-the-back for a job well done throughout the years. The timing and corresponding statement from California's only cardinal make it glaringly obvious as to exactly what the bishops are getting at.
And I tried to see exactly which bishops actually signed this thing, And source after source simply states "the bishops of California..."
I take that to include Bishop Cordileone. I hope to God I'm wrong. I'd hate to believe that he's just another political animal.
If anyone has any info showing that Bp. Cordileone didn't sign this abomination, please ComBox post it. Thanks.
One of cowardice?
Poor Bishop Cordileone, we hardly knew ye.
First we have this disgusting article from The California Catholic Daily;
Militant Disruptions in the Works?
Editor: The following post appeared in GayBuzz.blogspot on November 28. Included here are the comments on the blog.
Last week Bishop Salvatore Cordileone of the Catholic Diocese of Oakland signed on to the National Organization for Marriage’s new anti-gay manifesto, the Manhattan Declaration.
It is time we let Bishop Cordileone know there are consequences for his actions. Is anyone up for a rally in front of the Oakland Diocese or a disruption of services? Let me know and I’m happy to help organize.
California’s bishops adopt ‘statement of appreciation for Women Religious’ in midst of widespread defiance by U.S. congregations to Vatican visitations
Both the National Catholic Reporter and dissident groups like Call to Action have noted a statement issued by California’s bishops on Oct. 29 praising women religious in the state, interpreting the timing of the statement as support for the defiant nuns.
“The California bishops voted last week to pass a statement of support on behalf of U.S. women religious who are facing a Vatican investigation,” said the Reporter in a Nov. 5 story. “Word of the support came in a letter dated Nov. 2 written by Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahony.” The cardinal told the nuns, “We are all aware of the special anxieties which surround our women religious these days and I am writing to offer you my prayers of gratitude and my support for all of your members,” according to the Reporter. “The bishops of California met last week and passed a statement of support for all of you, and I am pleased to send a copy of that statement to you… I can honestly state that there would not exist our Catholic schools, hospitals, and social service outreach apostolates without you.”
In the lead-up to the Nov. 16-19 meeting of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops in Baltimore, the dissident group Call to Action launched a national campaign in an effort to flood the bishops with phone calls and letters of support for women religious in the U.S. In an email, Call to Action executive director Jim FitzGerald wrote, “As the Vatican continues its investigation of nuns, Cardinal Rode has been forced to announce the withdrawal of certain controversial sections on the questionnaires he issued to women's religious communities. Additionally, the California bishops issued a statement of support for women religious during this time of trial. Your letters, calls and other support for women religious are helping. Let's keep it up!”
The email said Call To Action “has united with more than 20 other Catholic organizations in support of this national signature ad. With a $15 donation to help defray the publishing cost, your name will be added to a statement of support that will be published in a national newspaper in December.” The link to the ad provided in the email leads to a website called “Catholics Speak Out.” While the main text on the page is devoted to describing how wonderful U.S. Women religious are, the left-hand column of the page describes the group’s views: “We support: Gender equality, including ordination for women; The civil rights of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender persons; An end to the rule of celibacy for Catholic clergy; Full communion for divorced and remarried Catholics; Due process for church employees and theologians; A strong church voice on issues of social justice.”
And I tried to see exactly which bishops actually signed this thing, And source after source simply states "the bishops of California..."
I take that to include Bishop Cordileone. I hope to God I'm wrong. I'd hate to believe that he's just another political animal.
If anyone has any info showing that Bp. Cordileone didn't sign this abomination, please ComBox post it. Thanks.
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The cardinal told the nuns, “We are all aware of the special anxieties which surround our women religious these days and I am writing to offer you my prayers of gratitude and my support for all of your members,” according to the Reporter.
What about my special anxieties just knowing that these hags exist as alleged Catholic nuns? I am scandalized again and again and . . . .
I doubt that Bsp. Codileone signed it because he DID sign the Manhattan Declaration which is so opposite to the California craziness.
Joe of St. Therese must be fuming after reading this. It would not be pleasant to live in Maphoneyland. But, then again, TH2's bishop suspended Communion on the tongue a few weeks ago.... and so the crap continues...
"It is time we let Bishop Cordileone know there are consequences for his actions."
Interesting isn't it how gays demand that no one harass them or annoy them or even *disagree* with them ("Hate Crime!") and yet they have every legal and social right to harass and abuse those with whom they disagree???
As a convert (albeit of 30 years now) I have had little acquaintance with nuns.
My first year of Catholicism, I was charging through the streets on my racing ten-speed (bike, not Mack truck), and just rounded a corner next to my parish, when several total idiot drivers imperiled my wellbeing.
I naturally indicated my modest suggestion to proceed more safely from here on out to those drivers by deploying both vocal and visual means.
But as the cars disappeared down the street, I noticed that opposite me walking alongside the Church was a large group of full black habit wearing nuns, maybe two dozen of them, and they were all looking directly at me -- from that point on I always feel remiss when similarly deploying the aforementioned gesture. So, those dear nuns did indeed have an influence on my sense of public communication.
Next it was about a half decade later, when a couple of nuns sang in one of the choirs I joined for about a year (before I knew about any kind of traditional Mass ... ok, it was a Carribean choir). One of them wore a full habit, and the other a modified but close to full habit. Both were good nuns.
Then there were some young nuns who wore tee shirts, and were not quite so morally disciplined but working on it I hope.
Since then about the only nuns I've seen have been really old ones all with that kind of distinctive repellent look, attitude and ambiance. The worst were a trio of them who stood behind the altar during Mass and glared at the congregation. That was the last time I went to a n.o. liturgy ... at which I managed to escape just as everyone was gleefully scurrying about in rearranging where they had been standing, so as to link up for Communion, which looked extraordinarily disarrayed.
OK, here's how it all makes sense: They're flattering the nuns to get them to lower their guard. And that is exactly the moment the Vatican inspectors will arrive on the scene.
They'll find the old nuns wearing tie dyed habits purchased at Good Will and the Salvation Army and singing cum bye yah, and carrying rainbow colored Rosary beads (while Rohr-ites are jumping over camp fires in the background, with their birthday suits tie dyed and scorched). They will be instructing poor people on how to be resilient to authority structures such as work places.
I went over to the California Catholic Conference website & read the entire statement. Nowhere in the statement does it mention the Visitation. That bit is a spin put on it by cardinal Mahony & the Non-Catholic Reporter, not the actual statement. I wonder who initially suggested it? & I suspect that many, if not most of the Bishops who voted for it had no idea this spin would be put on it by Mahony.
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