Friday, October 16, 2009

It's Official. God's A Southerner
Well, at least His momma is

In a recent post concerning The War When The North Invaded America (popularly known as the Civil War), there's been some question if Miz Scarlett and the whole O'Hara clan of Gone With the Wind fame were Catholic.

Here're the only lines to that entire movie I've ever memorized;

SCARLETT: Yankees in Tara?

MAMMIE: Yes'm. And they stole almost everything they didn't burn. All the clothes, and all the rugs, and even Miss Ellen's Rosaries!
And before anyone starts pissin' and moanin' about how "demeaning" Hattie McDaniel's character was, I'd like to point out that not only was Mammie the defacto mother of the O'Hara children, that character also wouldn't heasitate to chew-out any of the Whitefolk in that particular film.

Watching Madame McDaniel's utterly brilliant performance, more than once I've half-expected to hear her character say;

Would you crazy White people act like ya got some damn sense!Admit it, Mammie would've gotten away with it.


Blogger Batjacboy said...

What a well-deserved Academy Award Hattie McDaniel won for that role!

7:07 PM  
Blogger Charlotte said...

There's also a scene in the film where the family gathers together for prayer and they are saying that one prayer (sorry, I don't know what's called, being catechized in the 70's) where you beat your breast and repeat "through my fault, through my most grievous fault." Additionally, Scarlett tells Rhett that she "knows" there is hell because she "was raised on it."

7:32 PM  
Blogger Adeodatus49 said...

The Hail Holy Queen

8:26 PM  
Blogger TCN said...

Um, no, that's the Confiteor.

In the book it is clear they are Catholic, because they start out praying the Rosary.

9:03 PM  
Blogger Foxfier, formerly Sailorette said...

From what I remember of reading older stuff... isn't that about what folks really talked like, back then?

Folks are funny....

I'm reminded of my mom telling about how she was listening to a radio interview of Charley Pride,, and a lady called up sounding a lot like Mammie and asked why he didn't talk the way he was "supposed to."
Mr. Pride responded that he was raised in (Minnesota, Montana, something like that) and that he talked like everyone else where he grew up.....

10:58 PM  
Blogger Al said...

IMHO, Mamie would be a Pro-life Republican if she were arround today!!!!!

Charlotte, I remember the scene. That was the family's evening prayers, Rosary, Confeteor etc.

2:32 AM  
Blogger Dirtdartwife said...

The Hail Holy Queen has a part where you strike your breast when you say the three parts of "O Clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary". I believe Charlotte was talking about the Mea Culpa.

I love that movie and am so excited that my oldest daughter has fallen in love with it as well. Just can't believe it took me so many years to finally sit down and watch the dang movie!

8:46 AM  
Blogger Amanda said...

I believe the phrase "through my fault, through my fault, through my most grievous fault" is found in the Confiteor...

10:04 AM  
Blogger Wendy in VA said...

I always thought the family was Catholic (maybe there's more detail in the book). And Mammie is one of my all-time favorite characters. :o)

My great-grandmother called it "The War of Northern Aggression."

11:16 AM  
Blogger VSO said...

That's "Mea culpa" Charlotte. Madame McDaniel wasn't even allowed to be in the same room as the other Oscar winners from what I've heard.

12:01 PM  
Blogger Charlotte said...

In the sequel, "Scarlett," she discovers a new Irish cousin, who is a priest, and she travels with him to Ireland. Of course, to give the book more excitement, the priest ends up being all involved with that one group that was opposed to the English government, and he smuggles guns into Ireland from America.

12:53 PM  
Blogger Adeodatus49 said...

I believe the phrase "through my fault, through my fault, through my most grievous fault" is found in the Confiteor...

Thanks for the correction. I didn't read Charlotte's post carefully enough. I was still concentrating on the rosary bit from another post.

1:33 PM  
Blogger Aquinas Dad said...

The novel makes it quite clear that the O'Haras are Catholic, including Ashley saying some imprompyu words and the funeral of Scarlett's father from his fear the neighbors wouldn't understand the Catholic funeral Mass.

The prayer in question is the Confiteor

10:19 AM  

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