Heretics, dissidents, and non-believers
Traitors in our midst
After reading Vir Speluncae Catholicus’ recent post about one of the statements of the Blessed Virgin at Akita, Japan (yes, Cave visitors, those apparitions ARE approved by the Church, and, no, they are not doctrine so we are not required to believe them, but being the most recent appearance on Earth of the Mother of God, one wonders why more attention isn’t paid to her timely warnings), I got to thinking about the people – cardinals, bishops, priests, religious, and laity – who are trying to tear down the Church and reshape it into something of their own making, or even in their own image.
I was around when Vat2 took place. I do not recall hearing beforehand, or ever learning since, that Pope John XXIII had any intent of changing the Mass that had worked for 1500 years. Why then was a Responsorial Psalm added (by itself, not a bad thing) just like most mainline Protestant churches? Why was the Protestant ending added to the Our Father? Where in any of the Vatican II documents is there anything about removing the statues and altar railings from our churches (making them look more Protestant)? Obviously, some people working against the Roman Catholic Church.
The catechesis has been watered down so there is no sin, confessionals are used as storage closets, yet everyone receives Holy Communion. Respect for the Eucharist and belief in the Real Presence has evaporated. Colleges claim to be Catholic but are nests of dissidents, infecting future generations. Bishops refuse to obey the Vatican and make the Extraordinary Form of the Mass available just like they refused the previous Pope’s request for “generous application” of the indult. Where bishops have allowed the traditional Mass, parish pastors sabotage any attempt to implement it.
The Roman poet Publius Ovidius Naso (43 BC – AD 17 or 18), known nowadays simply as Ovid must have been the ancient Roman equivalent of Conficius because he was also famous for knocking out memorable quotes. Here’s one that could apply to the Catholic Church in modern times:
Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.
Yes, gang, if someone is working against any organization, country, or religion from within (not just disagreeing with it) while purporting to be a loyal member, what else do you call it besides treason. Well, when a Catholic is trying to destroy the Church, I guess it would fair to also call it mortal sin.
Traitors in our midst
After reading Vir Speluncae Catholicus’ recent post about one of the statements of the Blessed Virgin at Akita, Japan (yes, Cave visitors, those apparitions ARE approved by the Church, and, no, they are not doctrine so we are not required to believe them, but being the most recent appearance on Earth of the Mother of God, one wonders why more attention isn’t paid to her timely warnings), I got to thinking about the people – cardinals, bishops, priests, religious, and laity – who are trying to tear down the Church and reshape it into something of their own making, or even in their own image.
I was around when Vat2 took place. I do not recall hearing beforehand, or ever learning since, that Pope John XXIII had any intent of changing the Mass that had worked for 1500 years. Why then was a Responsorial Psalm added (by itself, not a bad thing) just like most mainline Protestant churches? Why was the Protestant ending added to the Our Father? Where in any of the Vatican II documents is there anything about removing the statues and altar railings from our churches (making them look more Protestant)? Obviously, some people working against the Roman Catholic Church.
The catechesis has been watered down so there is no sin, confessionals are used as storage closets, yet everyone receives Holy Communion. Respect for the Eucharist and belief in the Real Presence has evaporated. Colleges claim to be Catholic but are nests of dissidents, infecting future generations. Bishops refuse to obey the Vatican and make the Extraordinary Form of the Mass available just like they refused the previous Pope’s request for “generous application” of the indult. Where bishops have allowed the traditional Mass, parish pastors sabotage any attempt to implement it.
The Roman poet Publius Ovidius Naso (43 BC – AD 17 or 18), known nowadays simply as Ovid must have been the ancient Roman equivalent of Conficius because he was also famous for knocking out memorable quotes. Here’s one that could apply to the Catholic Church in modern times:
Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.
Yes, gang, if someone is working against any organization, country, or religion from within (not just disagreeing with it) while purporting to be a loyal member, what else do you call it besides treason. Well, when a Catholic is trying to destroy the Church, I guess it would fair to also call it mortal sin.
posted by Former Altar Boy at
1:58 PM
9 Comments:
FAB,
You're right. Church approved apparitions are not part of the public revalation (but private), and we the Faithful are under no requirement to "believe", but with that said --- isn't what The Blessed Mother has to say pretty important, especially in regards to the author of what she has to say Christ Almighty?
one wonders why more attention isn’t paid to her timely warnings
. . . because they are more interested in "justice" for homosexuals meaning OK for gay marriage, etc.
. . . and because general social justice imperatives and policies trump the essential mission of the Church which is Salvation.
I disagree with you on one point, but only "sort of." The new ending to the Lord's Prayer is said by the Orthodox except that the Orthodox add an invocation to the Holy Trinity to it:
"For Thine is the Kingdom and the Power and the Glory, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, now and ever and unto the ages of ages."
If the Church authorities would add the invocation to the Holy Trinity, then I wouldn't mind the addition to the Lord's Prayer all that much. Otherwise, return it to the way we say it during TLM.
Just my two-bits opinion.
"God's servants who have had the highest and most exalted inspirations have been the gentlest and most peaceable men in all the world. Such were Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Moses is called "a man exceedingly meek above all men." David is praised for his mildness.
On the contrary, the evil spirit is turbulent, bitter, and restless. Those who follow his hellish suggestions in the belief that they are heavenly inspirations can usually be recognized because they are unsettled, headstrong, haughty, and ready to undertake or meddle in affairs. Under the pretext of zeal, they subvert everything, criticize everyone, rebuke everyone, and find fault with everything. They are men without self-control and without consideration, who put up with nothing. In the name of zeal for God's honor, they indulge in the passions of self-love." -- St. Francis de Sales, Finding God's Will For You
salute to Jennifer Fuwiler's Conversion Diary
Some years ago I got a copy of the Lutheran Book of Worship and only a few years ago I saw a copy of the order of service for the Episcopal church in D.C. I don' think they changed to match our Novus Ordo; I think Bugnini cooked up the N.O. to match them.
Re Adeodatus' comment: the Ukrainian Catholics say it that way too, have since about AD 400.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the ECs. Sorry for the omission and thanks for the reminder.
The Ruthenians of the U.S. (i.e., the Byzantine Catholic Church of America headed by the Metropolia in Pittsburgh) pray the ending as:
". . . now and ever and forever" in lieu of the "now and ever and unto the ages of ages."
So among the Orthodox, ECs, and RCs the addition to the RC's traditional version of the Lord's Prayer is essentially Catholic, even though it lacks the invocation to the Holy Trinity!
Again, this doesn't mean I like the N.O.M. or that I like the way the Consilium fiddled with the Lord's Prayer. If they had to mess with it, they should have fiddled it in the Orthodox and EC direction.
Vir,
Yes, I totally agree -- Our Lady of Akita's message (which I do believe) is vitally important. That was the point of my post.
Old Bob,
I agree - again, my point exactly. Traitors within our ranks are attempting to create the Roman Protestant church.
Our Lady of Akita is a massive threat to "The Spirit of Vatican II" so no wonder she's ignored!!
Re, the strange post of Arkanabar: Abraham was a warrior king, who was brought into a feast by the mysterious Melchisidik, a representative (to say the least) of God. The other named patriarchs and David were all warriors who slew the enemies of God. The words "meek" and "mildness" have contexts. Jesus, eg, was meek when He whipped the temple con artists. Too many people are always going around trying to redefine meek as wimpy, which it does not mean. Ultimately the word means not defiant towards God, not rebellious to His Will. When St Benedict said Ora et Labora, he meant for us to work as if it all depends on us ... which implies that we have humbled ourselves before the throne of God and not of man (or feminazis). This is my humble opinion, and, when I yell at my dog to get it right, sometimes I'm meek and sometimes I'm wrong.
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