More 'Fruits of Vatican II"
Vocations plummet in Ireland
Vocations on the Emerald Isle are dropping like a stone. A total of sixteen are entering the seminary in Ireland this year, which is down from 39 last year. During the 1980s, the national average was slightly over 150 per year. Ireland currently has 99 seminarians, while England and Wales have 150.
According to Father Patrick Rushe, national coordinator for diocesan vocation directors, "The recent difficulties with Church scandals mean that those thinking tentatively about priesthood... are not going to be launching themselves forward."
Just a few generations ago, Ireland was known as the very cradle of the Catholic priesthood in the Western world.
Entry into Irish seminaries and convents have been evaporating since the 'improvements' brought about ever since the secular-friendly Second Vatican Council of the 1960s.
Vocations plummet in Ireland
Vocations on the Emerald Isle are dropping like a stone. A total of sixteen are entering the seminary in Ireland this year, which is down from 39 last year. During the 1980s, the national average was slightly over 150 per year. Ireland currently has 99 seminarians, while England and Wales have 150.
According to Father Patrick Rushe, national coordinator for diocesan vocation directors, "The recent difficulties with Church scandals mean that those thinking tentatively about priesthood... are not going to be launching themselves forward."
Just a few generations ago, Ireland was known as the very cradle of the Catholic priesthood in the Western world.
Entry into Irish seminaries and convents have been evaporating since the 'improvements' brought about ever since the secular-friendly Second Vatican Council of the 1960s.
posted by Kevin Whiteman at
3:40 PM
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It is high time the Church return to the Gospel of repentance and conversion, righteousness and holiness instead of the social justice hogwash that has become the mainstay of expositions from the pulpit. As I wrote at my blogsite, the liberal propaganda of social justice, the common good and peace at any price that has infected the Church, the Body of Christ, like a terminal cancer won't go away until the offending members are cut off and cast away exactly as described in John 15:2 and Romans 11:21-22. The liberals have to repent or be jettisoned in the same way that St. Paul handed over Hymenaeus and Alexander to Satan in order to be taught not to blaspheme (1st Timothy 1:19-20). I am thoroughly disgusted with the weakness of political conciliation in what sadly passes for Catholic teaching these days. I am a convert, so I do not know what it was like pre-Vatican II. But having been a Pentecostal, I can tell you that there won't be any Obama bumper stickers on cars in the parking lot of a Pentecostal Holiness assembly nor any talk of social justice crappola from the pulpit. For all their theological errors, those folks get the Gospel of righteousness and holiness right. And guess what? They don't have problems in their seminaries except when they start going liberal and begin catering to the rock'n roll crowd. Oh what a surpise that is!
I've said it before, that you are as off base as any homosexual bishop if you think the problem is Vatican II. Sin is the problem. Obedience to the truth is the answer. Vatican II is the truth proclaimed by the Church. If you reject Vatican II you are in sin just like the Obama idiots that think abortion isn't such a big deal. WAKE UP Caveman!
I've said it time and time again... the "Spirit" of V2 is what's destroying The Church. I'lll even go a step further... V2, in and of itself, isn't all it's cracked up to be. It's a Pastoral Council, NOT a Dogmatic Council.
The VAST majority of V2 is simply non-binding upon pain of sin. The VAST masjority of V2 is still to this day, up for debate.
If you think every sentence in V2 is dogma, and we MUST adhere to it, you are in sin just like the Poncho Ladies and "Catholics for a Free Choice".
WAKE UP DU!
Caveman is correct.
Yes, there is a lot of good in the VII documents, BUT the wave of VII has brought into the Church is utterly evil. True, the intent of the Council itself was NEVER to do that, but the intent of many of the liberal clerics behind what are called VII reforms intended exactly that: the emasculation of the voice of repentance and conversion, righteousness and holiness.
When was the last time a priest stood up from behind the pulpit and called pre-marital cohabitation fornication? When was the last time a priest stood up from behind the pulpit and called conception sin? When was the last time a priest stood up from behind the pulpit and called homosexual actions sin? When was the last time a priest stood up from behind the pulpit and called abortion a sin?
"Oh, we got to be sensitive to people's feelings!" We've become so sensitive to people's feelings that we are sending them straight to hell because we afraid to confront sin!
Just the past few months we have been reading from the Daily Readings excerpts from Jeremiah and Ezekiel - all kinds of things about how God punishes sin, how He allowed Nebuchadnezzer to take into exile the people of Jerusalem because they wouldn't give up their idol worship, their adultery and fornication, and their baby sacrifice (called abortion by any other name). There has been ample opportunity for priests to draw parallels between those Scripture passages and the filth and disease running rampant through these United States, especially with the ascendency of that anti-christ Obama. I have never ONCE heard a priest in the past two months (or any any time) draw such a parallel or even acknowledge the reading of those passages, and the parallel is blindingly obvious. So what do the priests do? They go through the motions of the Mass without belief that God being perfect LOVE is perfect JUSTICE - and He ain't social justice.
It is high time all clerics read Ezekiel 34:1-10. It's certainly apparent to me that they are incapable of preaching and teaching the truth because they are afraid! As afraid as the apostate priests and prophets of ancient Judah were when Jeremiah confronted them.
True, VII might not be bad, but the resultant fruits are rotten to the core.
Caveman is correct.
Yes, there is a lot of good in the VII documents, BUT the wave of VII has brought into the Church is utterly evil. True, the intent of the Council itself was NEVER to do that, but the intent of many of the liberal clerics behind what are called VII reforms intended exactly that: the emasculation of the voice of repentance and conversion, righteousness and holiness.
When was the last time a priest stood up from behind the pulpit and called pre-marital cohabitation fornication? When was the last time a priest stood up from behind the pulpit and called conception sin? When was the last time a priest stood up from behind the pulpit and called homosexual actions sin? When was the last time a priest stood up from behind the pulpit and called abortion a sin?
"Oh, we got to be sensitive to people's feelings!" We've become so sensitive to people's feelings that we are sending them straight to hell because we afraid to confront sin!
Just the past few months we have been reading from the Daily Readings excerpts from Jeremiah and Ezekiel - all kinds of things about how God punishes sin, how He allowed Nebuchadnezzer to take into exile the people of Jerusalem because they wouldn't give up their idol worship, their adultery and fornication, and their baby sacrifice (called abortion by any other name). There has been ample opportunity for priests to draw parallels between those Scripture passages and the filth and disease running rampant through these United States, especially with the ascendency of that anti-christ Obama. I have never ONCE heard a priest in the past two months (or any any time) draw such a parallel or even acknowledge the reading of those passages, and the parallel is blindingly obvious. So what do the priests do? They go through the motions of the Mass without belief that God being perfect LOVE is perfect JUSTICE - and He ain't social justice.
It is high time all clerics read Ezekiel 34:1-10. It's certainly apparent to me that they are incapable of preaching and teaching the truth because they are afraid! As afraid as the apostate priests and prophets of ancient Judah were when Jeremiah confronted them.
True, VII might not be bad, but the resultant fruits are rotten to the core.
Caveman is correct.
Yes, there is a lot of good in the VII documents, BUT the wave of VII has brought into the Church is utterly evil. True, the intent of the Council itself was NEVER to do that, but the intent of many of the liberal clerics behind what are called VII reforms intended exactly that: the emasculation of the voice of repentance and conversion, righteousness and holiness.
When was the last time a priest stood up from behind the pulpit and called pre-marital cohabitation fornication? When was the last time a priest stood up from behind the pulpit and called conception sin? When was the last time a priest stood up from behind the pulpit and called homosexual actions sin? When was the last time a priest stood up from behind the pulpit and called abortion a sin?
"Oh, we got to be sensitive to people's feelings!" We've become so sensitive to people's feelings that we are sending them straight to hell because we afraid to confront sin!
Just the past few months we have been reading from the Daily Readings excerpts from Jeremiah and Ezekiel - all kinds of things about how God punishes sin, how He allowed Nebuchadnezzer to take into exile the people of Jerusalem because they wouldn't give up their idol worship, their adultery and fornication, and their baby sacrifice (called abortion by any other name). There has been ample opportunity for priests to draw parallels between those Scripture passages and the filth and disease running rampant through these United States, especially with the ascendency of that anti-christ Obama. I have never ONCE heard a priest in the past two months (or any any time) draw such a parallel or even acknowledge the reading of those passages, and the parallel is blindingly obvious. So what do the priests do? They go through the motions of the Mass without belief that God being perfect LOVE is perfect JUSTICE - and He ain't social justice.
It is high time all clerics read Ezekiel 34:1-10. It's certainly apparent to me that they are incapable of preaching and teaching the truth because they are afraid! As afraid as the apostate priests and prophets of ancient Judah were when Jeremiah confronted them.
True, VII might not be bad, but the resultant fruits are rotten to the core.
OK, third time trying to post this - computer problems.
Caveman is correct.
Yes, there is a lot of good in the VII documents, BUT the wave of VII has brought into the Church is utterly evil. True, the intent of the Council itself was NEVER to do that, but the intent of many of the liberal clerics behind what are called VII reforms intended exactly that: the emasculation of the voice of repentance and conversion, righteousness and holiness.
When was the last time a priest stood up from behind the pulpit and called pre-marital cohabitation fornication? When was the last time a priest stood up from behind the pulpit and called conception sin? When was the last time a priest stood up from behind the pulpit and called homosexual actions sin? When was the last time a priest stood up from behind the pulpit and called abortion a sin?
"Oh, we got to be sensitive to people's feelings!" We've become so sensitive to people's feelings that we are sending them straight to hell because we afraid to confront sin!
Just the past few months we have been reading from the Daily Readings excerpts from Jeremiah and Ezekiel - all kinds of things about how God punishes sin, how He allowed Nebuchadnezzer to take into exile the people of Jerusalem because they wouldn't give up their idol worship, their adultery and fornication, and their baby sacrifice (called abortion by any other name). There has been ample opportunity for priests to draw parallels between those Scripture passages and the filth and disease running rampant through these United States, especially with the ascendency of that anti-christ Obama. I have never ONCE heard a priest in the past two months (or any any time) draw such a parallel or even acknowledge the reading of those passages, and the parallel is blindingly obvious. So what do the priests do? They go through the motions of the Mass without belief that God being perfect LOVE is perfect JUSTICE - and He ain't social justice.
It is high time all clerics read Ezekiel 34:1-10. It's certainly apparent to me that they are incapable of preaching and teaching the truth because they are afraid! As afraid as the apostate priests and prophets of ancient Judah were when Jeremiah confronted them.
True, VII might not be bad, but the resultant fruits are rotten to the core.
I graduated from high school in 1962, so spent my entire life in the pre-VatII Church. VSC is right. What has done the damage is the notion that V-II put everything up for grabs. I saw a lot of priests and nuns (for instance on the University campus in the 1960s), who should have known better, saying and doing things that effectively led a lot of kids astray. I have two cousins who were born in 1964 and who were baptized Catholics but are no longer practicing. I think one main reason is that they were very badly taught in the 70s and 80s. Another, of course, is sin: it's easier to be bad than to be good.
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