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Wednesday, May 26, 2010

Speaking oF Footprints...
The ghost of luther speaks

The article in its entirety from Catholic Culture;
Jesuit head of Asian Catholic news agency criticizes transubstantiation
May 25, 2010

Stating that “Catholics can become fanatical about one form of the Body of Christ in the bread of the Eucharist as the REAL presence of Christ,” Father Michael Kelly, the Jesuit CEO of the Asian Catholic news agency UCA News, criticized the doctrine of transubstantiation in a May 24 column.

In his column-- a critique of the new, more accurate liturgical translations that reflect the content and dignity of the original Latin-- Father Kelly writes:

Regrettably, all too frequently, the only Presence focused on is Christ’s presence in the elements of bread and wine. Inadequately described as the change of the “substance” (not the “accidents”) of bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ, the mystery of the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist carries the intellectual baggage of a physics no one accepts. Aristotelian physics makes such nice, however implausible and now unintelligible, distinctions. They are meaningless in the post-Newtonian world of quantum physics, which is the scientific context we live in today.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church, on the other hand, teaches:

The Council of Trent summarizes the Catholic faith by declaring: "Because Christ our Redeemer said that it was truly his body that he was offering under the species of bread, it has always been the conviction of the Church of God, and this holy Council now declares again, that by the consecration of the bread and wine there takes place a change of the whole substance of the bread into the substance of the body of Christ our Lord and of the whole substance of the wine into the substance of his blood. This change the holy Catholic Church has fittingly and properly called transubstantiation." (no. 1376)

posted by Kevin Whiteman at 10:22 AM

6 Comments:

Blogger Old Bob said...

I have just finished reading The Elegant Universe by Brian Greene, in which he talks about relativity, quantum theory, the uncertainty principle, subatomic physics, the big bang, and other such topics.

The conclusions I reached are:
1, it could validly be said that the universe is the result of one infinite and eternal thought;
2, these topics do not in the least affect everyday objects and actions at the human scale. Aristotelian and Newtonian physics are still valid for ordinary use;
3, the transcendent truths revealed by God in Scripture and by our Lord Jesus Christ, are outside the physical realm;
4, so what physics we use is totally irrelevant to Christian truth, in the sense that physics cannot disprove revelation or theology;
5, God has infinite energy, so by "e=mc^2" we can see that m=e/c^2 and it doesn't matter how big the universe is, because e is infinite;
6, Christ's Passion, Death, and Resurrection are most certainly events at the human scale, in every sense of the word!

The good father should read more physics, and of course his catechism.

11:06 AM  
Blogger ignorant redneck said...

Some times, I wonder if there isn't some sort of special dispensation that would allow the feeding of Jesuits to alien monsters.

Or maybe we could simply gather them all in for learned conference, in a nice luxury hotel with gret food, good service a a kick ass bar, and weld the doors and windows shut.

3:13 PM  
Blogger Simplex Vir said...

Truely this Jesuit suffers from the same affliction that many professors are crippled by. They have allowed their own intellect to deceive them. They cannot believe in transubstantiation because it is metaphysical. They can only see the ordered evidence (also ordered by God) and therefore shed any mystical belief in supernatural occurance. Yet non of these yahoos can even point to anything that is the "origin" other than an "accidental" metaphysical event such as big bang, primordial goop, or whatever your bailywick. Transubstantiation is no different in that they cannot see the transformation occur so they cannot believe in their heart that it is happening.

God creates, he is not bound by the laws of physics just as Old Bob's reading so informed us. Get with the friggin program you nincompoops!

6:29 PM  
Blogger TCN said...

Well, if he can't perceive the True Presence, then I suspect when his time comes, he won't perceive the Mercy of God, either.

His eternal loss.

11:43 AM  
Blogger Helen said...

What Father Kelly calls "intellectual baggage of a physics no one accepts" is FAITH in what Jesus taught.

3:56 PM  
Blogger Old Bob said...

Hi, Simplex Vir - good point there! God isn't bound by the laws of physics because He thought them up! So if He made them, He can set them aside at will.

BTW, any honest scientist will admit that the "laws" of physics are really only highly-educated approximations to an as-yet-inscrutable reality.

10:22 PM  

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