Now That They've Pointed Out The Obvious...
When will something of substance happen?
Don't tell me about Vatican III, I'm ready for Trent II. These quotes are simply stunning. Please read them.
Here's some of Matt Abbot's article from RenewAmerica.com; (Emphasis mine)
What hath 'the spirit of Vatican II' wrought?
The following is a reprint of a chapter (minus endnotes) from Catholic attorney/scholar Peter B. Kelly's book Cleansing Fire.
Chapter 38
A Statistical Analysis
"The message (of the Third Secret of Fatima) was not to be opened before 1960. I asked Lucy: 'Why this date?' And she answered me: 'Because then it will be clearer (mais claro).' This made me think that the message was prophetic in tone, precisely because the prophesies, as we see in Sacred Scripture, are covered with a veil of mystery. ... In 1960, she said, the message would be clearer."
— Cardinal Ottaviani (speaking about the Third Secret of Fatima at the great hall of the Antonianum, Pontifical Marian Academy, February 11, 1967)
"The devil is in the process of engaging in a decisive battle with the Virgin. And the devil knows what it is that most offends God and which in a short space of time will gain for him the greatest number of souls. Thus the devil does everything to overcome souls consecrated to God because in this way, the devil will succeed in leaving the souls of the faithful abandoned by their leaders, and thereby the more easily will he seize them."
— Sister Lucy's disclosures to Father Fuentes
"What some refer to as a 'vocations crisis' is, rather, one of the many fruits of the Second Vatican Council, a sign of God's deep love for the Church, and an invitation to a more creative and effective ordering of gifts and energy in the Body of Christ."
— Cardinal Roger Mahony of the Archdiocese of Los Angeles, Holy Thursday, April 20, 2000.
"Without priests the sacramental nature of the Church will disappear. We'll become a Protestant church without the sacraments."
— Cardinal Godfried Daneels, London Catholic Times, May, 2000.
"Certainly the results (of Vatican II) seem cruelly opposed to the expectations of everyone, beginning with those of Pope John XXIII and then of Pope Paul VI: expected was a new Catholic unity and instead we have been exposed to dissension which, to use the words of Pope Paul VI, seems to have gone from self-criticism to self-destruction. Expected was a new enthusiasm, and many wound up discouraged and bored. Expected was a great step forward, instead we find ourselves faced with a progressive process of decadence which has developed for the most part under the sign of a calling back to the Council, and has therefore contributed to discrediting it for many. The net result therefore seems negative. I am repeating here what I said ten years after the conclusion of the work: it is incontrovertible that this period has definitely been unfavorable for the Catholic Church."
— Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, 1984.
"It's chic to declare yourself a Protestant in France these days. In intellectual circles, it is also chic to reveal yourself as a Jew. But if you admit to being a Roman Catholic, you'll trigger howls of derisive laughter."
— Sociologist Daniele Hervieu-Leger, UPI, March 13, 2001.
"And will not God revenge His elect who cry to Him day and night? And will He have patience in their regard? I say to you that He will quickly revenge them. But yet the Son of man, when He cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth?"
— Luke 18:7-8
"The dechristianization of Europe is a reality."
— Cardinal Paul Poupard, president of the Pontifical Council for Culture, Le Spectacle du Monde, January, 2000.
When will something of substance happen?
Don't tell me about Vatican III, I'm ready for Trent II. These quotes are simply stunning. Please read them.
Here's some of Matt Abbot's article from RenewAmerica.com; (Emphasis mine)
The following is a reprint of a chapter (minus endnotes) from Catholic attorney/scholar Peter B. Kelly's book Cleansing Fire.
Chapter 38
A Statistical Analysis
"The message (of the Third Secret of Fatima) was not to be opened before 1960. I asked Lucy: 'Why this date?' And she answered me: 'Because then it will be clearer (mais claro).' This made me think that the message was prophetic in tone, precisely because the prophesies, as we see in Sacred Scripture, are covered with a veil of mystery. ... In 1960, she said, the message would be clearer."
"The devil is in the process of engaging in a decisive battle with the Virgin. And the devil knows what it is that most offends God and which in a short space of time will gain for him the greatest number of souls. Thus the devil does everything to overcome souls consecrated to God because in this way, the devil will succeed in leaving the souls of the faithful abandoned by their leaders, and thereby the more easily will he seize them."
"What some refer to as a 'vocations crisis' is, rather, one of the many fruits of the Second Vatican Council, a sign of God's deep love for the Church, and an invitation to a more creative and effective ordering of gifts and energy in the Body of Christ."
"Without priests the sacramental nature of the Church will disappear. We'll become a Protestant church without the sacraments."
"Certainly the results (of Vatican II) seem cruelly opposed to the expectations of everyone, beginning with those of Pope John XXIII and then of Pope Paul VI: expected was a new Catholic unity and instead we have been exposed to dissension which, to use the words of Pope Paul VI, seems to have gone from self-criticism to self-destruction. Expected was a new enthusiasm, and many wound up discouraged and bored. Expected was a great step forward, instead we find ourselves faced with a progressive process of decadence which has developed for the most part under the sign of a calling back to the Council, and has therefore contributed to discrediting it for many. The net result therefore seems negative. I am repeating here what I said ten years after the conclusion of the work: it is incontrovertible that this period has definitely been unfavorable for the Catholic Church."
"It's chic to declare yourself a Protestant in France these days. In intellectual circles, it is also chic to reveal yourself as a Jew. But if you admit to being a Roman Catholic, you'll trigger howls of derisive laughter."
"And will not God revenge His elect who cry to Him day and night? And will He have patience in their regard? I say to you that He will quickly revenge them. But yet the Son of man, when He cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth?"
"The dechristianization of Europe is a reality."
posted by Kevin Whiteman at
8:03 AM
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Please excuse the OT but I also wanted to point out that your favorite Coffee Catholic has become the proud mother of twins, a boy and a girl. Born Thursday, mom and babies doing well, details on ther blog.
"But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then they shall fast."
The minor council "Vatican II" most certainly did just that. It removed the Groom from his Bride the Church. It took the place of the Groom completely and denied him tradition which was the dowry of his Bride, then robbed and sacked his home of it's wealth and furnishings. It replaced the rules of the house with inferior ones and the idolatry of man was practiced. It whored with unclean religions. It entertained those who practiced abominable lusts and chased the Bride's sons from it's halls. Worst of all it denied him his heirs.
"And nobody putteth a piece of raw cloth unto an old garment. For it taketh away the fullness thereof from the garment, and there is made a greater rent."
The minor council "Vatican II" was the raw cloth that the reformers applied to the 2000 year old garment which was The Church. And it removed the fullness of it, and the rent it caused was devastating to the whole of it.
"Neither do they put new wine into old bottles. Otherwise the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish. But new wine they put into new bottles: and both are preserved."
The minor council "Vatican II" is the old bottle and it's inferior contents will be spilt to the ground. The new wine which will be made fresh from the recipe of 2000 years will go into a new bottle. One that was made during the Council of Trent and has been held empty awaiting the new batch.
And congratulations on the birth of the twins. A boy and girl too! How wonderful.
THe book 'Trojan Horse In The City Of God' by Dietrech von Hildebrand says pretty much the same thing - and it was written in 1967. Read it if you haven't.
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