Holy Father, Come To America
Because you're being ignored
This is simply laughable. And I don't want to hear about the so-called "priest shortage". Between the dyke nuns, queer priests and self-ordained militant laity that constitute the average seminary admissions boards, it's amazing we have any priests at all.
Anyhow, here's some of the article; (Emphasis mine)
Gandolfo, Italy, Sep 17, 2009 / 10:27 am (CNA).- In an audience this morning with bishops visiting from Brazil, Pope Benedict XVI advised them on how to respond to the lack of priests, emphasizing that the shortage cannot be solved by having lay people substitute for the clergy.
The Holy Father began his address to the Brazilian prelates by pointing out the difference between the identity of priests and the laity. While the lay faithful share in the "common priesthood," they are not ordained ministers of Christ and His Church. "Hence," the Pope cautioned, "it is important to avoid the secularization of clergy and the 'clericalization' of the laity." Ok, ok... nice words from Rome. But over on this side of the pond, they see things a little different.
The bishops approved new rules and expectations for the American church's 30,632 "lay ecclesial ministers," many of whom are filling tasks that used to be exclusively assigned to clergy. In some parishes, for instance, they conduct weddings and baptisms. And then there's always this gem from Roger "Millions For Homo-Rapists, None For Salvation Of Souls" Mahony;
What some refer to as a "vocations crisis" is, rather, one of the many fruits of the Second Vatican Council. It is a sign of God's deep love for the Church, and an invitation to a more creative and effective ordering of gifts and energy in the Body of Christ. This is a time of great challenge and opportunity in the Church, not least of all because the gifts of the lay faithful have been flourishing in unprecedented numbers and in unforeseen ways. The Pope's words are impressive, but as long as we have individuals like Mahony and his minions (the so-called "priests" at Notre Damned, the Ursuline Sisters, the members of the of the Cape Fear Deanery, etc, ad nauseum) in positions of power in The Church, things won't get better. We'll just continue to slouch towards Gomorrah.
Because you're being ignored
This is simply laughable. And I don't want to hear about the so-called "priest shortage". Between the dyke nuns, queer priests and self-ordained militant laity that constitute the average seminary admissions boards, it's amazing we have any priests at all.
Anyhow, here's some of the article; (Emphasis mine)
The Holy Father began his address to the Brazilian prelates by pointing out the difference between the identity of priests and the laity. While the lay faithful share in the "common priesthood," they are not ordained ministers of Christ and His Church. "Hence," the Pope cautioned, "it is important to avoid the secularization of clergy and the 'clericalization' of the laity."
posted by Kevin Whiteman at
12:04 AM
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Any time I see "the fruits of Vatican II" I feel my insides lurch.
I have a bit of contact with the Ursuline Sisters. The Old sisters who retain the veil are pretty cool. The mass of them are horrid. When the altar in our Parish Church was concecrated, the Superior of the Ursulines attended because relics of Ursuline saints were enclosed there in. She acted like the entire ceremony offended her. (It was in the Ordinary Form, but conducted in strict accordance with the rubrics, no ad libs, and with traditional music and chant.)
Where Card. Roj says,"gifts of the lay faithful have been flourishing ...in unforeseen ways", apparently what he forgot to add was "and in seen ways".
No surprise that the heretic Mahoney would be one to praise the fruit of Vatican II and think the decline in ordained priests and the rise of the "lay ministers' is a good thing. Did I miss his name when I read the "Screwtape Letters?"
I will risk pissing off a bunch of you by daring to criticize Pope Benedict and his predecessor:
Cardinal Mahony and the other prelates of his ilk are still in office thanks to the Pope. If the Pope has ordinary jurisdiction over the Universal Church, then let him exercise it and end Cardinal Mahony's and others' tenure. He could send a strong signal. After all this is (spiritual) warfare.
Leadership, leadership, leadership! You can delegate authority, but you cannot delegate accountability. The Pope is accountable for all of this if he doesn't at least attempt some decisive action to fix things. Yes, I am greatful that Pope Benedict tweaked a lot of liberal noses by restoring the ancient Latin liturgy to us as more than a mere indult, and for his overtures to the SSPX in the form of removing the excommunications for the uncanonically consecrated bishops.
Similarly, the Pope can end the liberal policies of the USCCB which have supposed authority in the various dioceses of the AmChurch when they have ABSOLUTELY NO AUTHORITY. IMHO,the USCCB is largely a political organization that is staffed by feminists and liberals.
The very idea of a lay ecclesial minister baptizing your child or witnessing your marriage is totally fatuous. In fact, it is Protestantism in the Catholic Church! You might as well go to a judge for a civil marriage and have the Church recognize it under a dispensation from the canonical norm, because a lay ecclesial minister (likely a feminist, Sr. Mary Stretch-pants nun) witnessing a marriage is by its very nature a departure from the canonical norm.
Re: baptism. If no priest or deacon is available, then the child's father, as the temporal and spiritual head of the family, should perform the baptism.
BTW, what happened to all the "spirit of Vatican II" hoopla about how wonderful the permanent deaconate is? There should be plenty of deacons available in the diocese to witness marriages and baptise children. How come the Red Guru never mentions this when he states that the priest shortage is a blessing from the Spirit because it gives the laity to take a more active and prominent role in the Church? By the way, what Spirit? It just couldn't be the one called "Holy." How about one called "Fallen?"
The Second Vatican Council asserted that the laity had a very important role in the Church, in its own way just as important as the clergy and the religious/monastics, but that role was not behind the now non-existent communion rail. Rather, it was out in the (secular) world--in the workplace, the home, schools, and the public square. It is called evangelization.
End of sermon! *grin*
Rather, it was out in the (secular) world--in the workplace, the home, schools, and the public square.
Oh I forgot. . . . and in the United States Marine Corps! *big grin*
Semper Fidelus
Sorry, one more time!
On Tuesday afternoon, the bishops began a day or two of closed-door executive sessions, provoking complaints from lay activists who champion open meetings.Among the issues likely to be discussed behind closed doors are ongoing problems and programs in the wake of the priestly sex-abuse scandal.
Lay activists? You mean heretics and schismatics? I am no fan of the USCCB (I think it should be disbanded), but the lay activists have absolutely no authority in ecclesiastical matters. This is another outrage ultimately caused by the failure of episcopal leadership in AmChurch.
I will risk pissing off a bunch of you by daring to criticize Pope Benedict and his predecessor
You ain't pissin' me off. The Emperor needs to be told about his new clothes.
Well, Cavey, you should have caught my almost unpardonable sin. I spelled Semper Fi incorrectly! It should be "fidelis" not "fidelus"
Mea culpa
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