But Somehow, HE'S THE SCUMBAG!!??
HOW DARE HE!!!
I don't know what's more disgusting... that a Catholic Bishop was slammed for reinforcing Catholic Teaching at an alleged "Catholic organization" conference, or if the mere fact that it's even newsworthy that a Catholic Bishop reinforced Church Teaching. Have things really gotten that bad? (He asked rhetorically.)
If anyone honestly thinks for a moment that these perverts actually advocate celebacy and admitting that the homosexual act itself is intrinsically sinful... then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you.
If you get a chance, read the entire article. It's a stunner. But here's the gist of it from The Catholic News Agency; (Emphasis mine)
Bishop Soto’s defense of Church teaching at gay ministry conference draws attendees’ ire
Sacramento, Sep 27, 2008 / 10:54 am (CNA).- Jamie Soto, the coadjutor bishop of Sacramento, addressed the National Association of Catholic Diocesan Lesbian and Gay Ministries conference in Long Beach, California on September 18. While noting that marriage is not the "sole domain of love," he also reiterated the Church’s teaching that homosexual acts are sinful. During his talk, several audience members walked out while Bishop Soto received hostile responses from many in the audience afterward.
The bishop’s address began by challenging the belief that Jesus "always gave people what they wanted" and was an "agreeable person." He noted the exchange between Jesus and Simon Peter in Matthew 16, where Jesus says "You are thinking not as God does, but as human beings do."
The bishop also referenced St. Paul’s phrase "do not conform yourselves to this age," noting the human capacity to think that Jesus is "too unrealistic, too unreasonable," and to convince ourselves that "we know better than the Lord."
Such habits, the bishop said, are evident today in the area of sexuality, about which many of us have a "distorted sense."
"Sexuality has been reduced to a matter of personal preference and personal pleasure without responsibility and with little respect for others. We can lose sight of the profound dignity of the human person who shares in God’s love and creative work through the chaste expression of one’s sexuality proper to one’s calling in life. "
Bishop Soto then lauded the virtue of chastity, calling it "the path that brings us to that harmony with God’s wisdom and love" and a thing that "moves us beyond one’s desire to what God wills for each one of us."
This is true, he said, also for men and women who are homosexual.
"Let me be clear here," the bishop stated. "Sexual intercourse, outside of the marriage covenant between a man and a woman, can be alluring and intoxicating but it will not lead to that liberating journey of true self-discovery and an authentic discovery of God. For that reason, it is sinful."
While same-sex relations can be "alluring" for homosexuals, it "deviates from the true meaning of the act and distracts them from the true nature of love to which God has called us all."
Two conference attendees told the California Catholic Daily that they witnessed Bishop Soto "courageously but gently" give a clear presentation of Catholic teaching on sexuality. They report at least five members of the audience walked out during the bishop’s address, while only a very small number applauded the bishop at the conclusion of his speech.
When the conference chairman announced the bishop would answer questions at a reception held in another room, members of the audience reportedly made widespread shows of disapproval and said they wanted to respond immediately.
Bishop Soto then interacted with respondents.
About eight audience members expressed their unhappiness with what the bishop had said. One woman reportedly commented that the audience knew what the Church teaches but wanted to hear about the value of the "lived experience" of lesbian women and gay men.
While the audience members responded to the bishop’s remarks, the California Catholic Daily says, one board member of the National Association of Catholic Diocesan Lesbian and Gay Ministries approached one of the tables in the room and said "On behalf of the board, I apologize. We had no idea Bishop Soto was going to say what he said." By the way, here's the by-diocese, by-parish (remember, that's spelled "by", not "bi-", but that works, too) link for The National Association of Lispers With Blisters, or whatever the hell they're called.
Why don't these diocese and parishes abandon these freaks, and instead, exclusively incorporate The Courage Apostolate instead?
For me, it's obvious. There are those within The Church who are stealth (and sometimes, none-too-stealthily) supporters in favor of portraying The Sin of Sodom as "normal". And more often than not, these are the same Smoke of Satan tokers who look the other way and smile whenever "Catholics" publicly support abortion.
HOW DARE HE!!!
I don't know what's more disgusting... that a Catholic Bishop was slammed for reinforcing Catholic Teaching at an alleged "Catholic organization" conference, or if the mere fact that it's even newsworthy that a Catholic Bishop reinforced Church Teaching. Have things really gotten that bad? (He asked rhetorically.)
If anyone honestly thinks for a moment that these perverts actually advocate celebacy and admitting that the homosexual act itself is intrinsically sinful... then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you.
If you get a chance, read the entire article. It's a stunner. But here's the gist of it from The Catholic News Agency; (Emphasis mine)
Sacramento, Sep 27, 2008 / 10:54 am (CNA).- Jamie Soto, the coadjutor bishop of Sacramento, addressed the National Association of Catholic Diocesan Lesbian and Gay Ministries conference in Long Beach, California on September 18. While noting that marriage is not the "sole domain of love," he also reiterated the Church’s teaching that homosexual acts are sinful. During his talk, several audience members walked out while Bishop Soto received hostile responses from many in the audience afterward.
The bishop’s address began by challenging the belief that Jesus "always gave people what they wanted" and was an "agreeable person." He noted the exchange between Jesus and Simon Peter in Matthew 16, where Jesus says "You are thinking not as God does, but as human beings do."
The bishop also referenced St. Paul’s phrase "do not conform yourselves to this age," noting the human capacity to think that Jesus is "too unrealistic, too unreasonable," and to convince ourselves that "we know better than the Lord."
Such habits, the bishop said, are evident today in the area of sexuality, about which many of us have a "distorted sense."
"Sexuality has been reduced to a matter of personal preference and personal pleasure without responsibility and with little respect for others. We can lose sight of the profound dignity of the human person who shares in God’s love and creative work through the chaste expression of one’s sexuality proper to one’s calling in life. "
Bishop Soto then lauded the virtue of chastity, calling it "the path that brings us to that harmony with God’s wisdom and love" and a thing that "moves us beyond one’s desire to what God wills for each one of us."
This is true, he said, also for men and women who are homosexual.
"Let me be clear here," the bishop stated. "Sexual intercourse, outside of the marriage covenant between a man and a woman, can be alluring and intoxicating but it will not lead to that liberating journey of true self-discovery and an authentic discovery of God. For that reason, it is sinful."
While same-sex relations can be "alluring" for homosexuals, it "deviates from the true meaning of the act and distracts them from the true nature of love to which God has called us all."
Two conference attendees told the California Catholic Daily that they witnessed Bishop Soto "courageously but gently" give a clear presentation of Catholic teaching on sexuality. They report at least five members of the audience walked out during the bishop’s address, while only a very small number applauded the bishop at the conclusion of his speech.
When the conference chairman announced the bishop would answer questions at a reception held in another room, members of the audience reportedly made widespread shows of disapproval and said they wanted to respond immediately.
Bishop Soto then interacted with respondents.
About eight audience members expressed their unhappiness with what the bishop had said. One woman reportedly commented that the audience knew what the Church teaches but wanted to hear about the value of the "lived experience" of lesbian women and gay men.
While the audience members responded to the bishop’s remarks, the California Catholic Daily says, one board member of the National Association of Catholic Diocesan Lesbian and Gay Ministries approached one of the tables in the room and said "On behalf of the board, I apologize. We had no idea Bishop Soto was going to say what he said."
Why don't these diocese and parishes abandon these freaks, and instead, exclusively incorporate The Courage Apostolate instead?
For me, it's obvious. There are those within The Church who are stealth (and sometimes, none-too-stealthily) supporters in favor of portraying The Sin of Sodom as "normal". And more often than not, these are the same Smoke of Satan tokers who look the other way and smile whenever "Catholics" publicly support abortion.
6 Comments:
Kudos to Bishop Soto for speaking the truth, which is not what these hedonist heretics want to hear. He's right, he who marries himself to the spirit of the times will soon find himself a widow. They are following the wide and broad path to destruction.
The problem with American culture, is that they don't want sin to be identified as sin. They want everything to be "normal"
God Bless Bishop Soto for standing up for the Truth. Apparently the time away from Bishop Brown has done him some good. Though I've met him personally, and thought of the Bishops in Orange, he was the one that I thought had promise.
The whole talk was an excellent defense on the Church's teachings on marriage & sexuality. Bishop Soto had the "courage" (pun intended) to call sin sin. I suspect he won't be invited back next year.
It will be interesting to see how well he does when he takes over the end of Nov.
Check out how destructive is the gay lifestyle according to one of them:
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/sep/08091011.html
Thank God for Bishop Soto! I'm glad he went.
The National Association of Lispers with Blisters? LOL! That's too funny, Cavey!
The organizer apologized for the bishops speech on Church teaching??? I wonder what the heck they thought he was going to say?
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