tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post2664799130875162710..comments2024-03-23T05:16:23.443-05:00Comments on The Lair of the Catholic Cavemen: Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-89177813318275527152009-01-13T17:13:00.000-05:002009-01-13T17:13:00.000-05:00There probably was a decline in the 1930s, in Euro...There probably was a decline in the 1930s, in Europe at least, although it is disingenuous of the hierarchy to quote it to hide the appalling post V2 slide. <BR/>WW1 decimated the pool of marriageable men in England, Ireland, Belgium, France and Germany - all countries with sizeable Catholic populations. The so-called "surplus women" provided ample vocations - especially since convent schools were already up and running effectively to nurse vocations between 1900 and 1930. By 1930, the male marriage pool had recovered, since those born from about 1904 had been too young to die in the war, and were now coming to marriageable age in larger numbers. Therefore you would expect a slight decline in vocations, but they did hold fairly steady after this until the 60s when they dropped like a stone, especially in the teaching orders.Dillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01205740584849200357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-26181664067135680702009-01-13T09:49:00.000-05:002009-01-13T09:49:00.000-05:00and 4 the abandonment of true charisms of service ...and 4 the abandonment of true charisms of service like teaching, nursing, and contemplation of the blessed sacrement; for "ministries" of "social justice," administration, and "spirituality." <BR/><BR/>The orders that retain or have taken up the habit are truly a joy to interact with. In contrast the habit-less nuns I deal with are a black hole of unhappiness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-60190560950389588552009-01-12T18:38:00.000-05:002009-01-12T18:38:00.000-05:00And 3. The Lame 1970 ICEL translation in EnglishAnd 3. The Lame 1970 ICEL translation in EnglishJoe of St. Thérèsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06506671882770822003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-25102866815177102442009-01-11T11:07:00.000-05:002009-01-11T11:07:00.000-05:00Dear Cavey,Allow me to weigh in with my answer, af...Dear Cavey,<BR/>Allow me to weigh in with my answer, after years and years of intense study regarding this problem:<BR/><BR/>1. Vatican II<BR/>2. The Novus Ordo<BR/><BR/>See? It's that simple.<BR/>S/FPreVat2https://www.blogger.com/profile/12653685396495060077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-53859194568109858402009-01-11T04:24:00.000-05:002009-01-11T04:24:00.000-05:00One easy answer is why become a nun if you are goi...One easy answer is why become a nun if you are going to work in the world, dress like everyone else, and have no vows that are taken seriously such as obedience. If you were starting a company and had this type of employees, you would go broke in a heartbeat. Give me a few true believers that can follow directions and you have a great start. <BR/><BR/>But it is not just the religious, it is also the layity who do not believe in the teaching, but stay around in dissent that puzzle me. Go find something you can believe in. There are tens of thousands of churchs that are out there that match each of their strange beliefs and yet they stay and constantly complain about things that will never be such as women priests.grampshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15458042134293544734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-23690291912962675812009-01-11T02:52:00.000-05:002009-01-11T02:52:00.000-05:00"Any wonder Orders like this are thriving. . ..."Any wonder Orders like this are thriving. . . But the Ministry of Clowns are dying?"<BR/><BR/>Not for me. The only reason the debate continues here in the USA & elsewhere is that those who are a part of the dying are in a state of denial (& I don't mean the river in Egypt!) about the facts.Alhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07721319432213055605noreply@blogger.com