tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post116450303905203488..comments2024-01-26T00:56:19.791-05:00Comments on The Lair of the Catholic Cavemen: Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-1164987861972488402006-12-01T10:44:00.001-05:002006-12-01T10:44:00.001-05:00Somehow I crave meat more on Friday than on any ot...Somehow I crave meat more on Friday than on any other day. Tonight, if I get home in time, I will grill Mahi-Mahi.<BR/><BR/>Sure beats the vegetarian lasagna my wife is cooking for those who don't like seafood.dadwithnoisykidshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07524886860399817926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-1164635926521275212006-11-27T08:58:00.000-05:002006-11-27T08:58:00.000-05:00For me, eating any kind of sea food would be a hug...For me, eating any kind of sea food would be a <B>huge</B> penance. *gag!*<BR/><BR/>I too go meatless on Wednesdays and Fridays, but I don't go totally vegan yet.<BR/><BR/>Dr. EricAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-1164626357165400782006-11-27T06:19:00.000-05:002006-11-27T06:19:00.000-05:00Nick,No pun intended, but your parish is the prove...Nick,<BR/>No pun intended, but your parish is the proverbial fish out of water.Kevin Whitemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019976622801954677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-1164594918710617762006-11-26T21:35:00.000-05:002006-11-26T21:35:00.000-05:00VSC,I know that you're given to hyperbole; however...VSC,<BR/><BR/>I know that you're given to hyperbole; however, you should know that here in my little Cajun parish, our pastor has made certain that we know that Friday's are for abstinence (or some other sacrifice).<BR/><BR/>We celebrate the Novus Ordo Mass - reverently - and we have vocations coming out of our parish.<BR/><BR/>I love to read your blog (too bad for Notre Dame, by the way), and I hope that you continue.<BR/><BR/>However, I just think that you should know that it's not ALL bad out here where we don't have a "traditional" mass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-1164568605447027732006-11-26T14:16:00.000-05:002006-11-26T14:16:00.000-05:00I understand what you're saying now Jimbob. I mist...I understand what you're saying now Jimbob. I mistakenly thought you were under the impression that the act of eating fish in and of itself was the penitential act.<BR/><BR/>My mistake. And you're right. A lobster meal hardly qualifies as a "sacrifice".Kevin Whitemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019976622801954677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-1164556461908603882006-11-26T10:54:00.000-05:002006-11-26T10:54:00.000-05:00Fridays are pasta, pizza or tuna sub nights at our...Fridays are pasta, pizza or tuna sub nights at our house.When I was younger it meant I got my beloved McDonald's cod fish filet for lunch.Dymphnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01469622835449220113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-1164545449616337442006-11-26T07:50:00.000-05:002006-11-26T07:50:00.000-05:00VSC:I do understand the distinction. OTOH, are lo...VSC:<BR/><BR/>I do understand the distinction. OTOH, are lobster, crab, or even salmon truly penitential anymore? Having them on Friday may fulfill the <I>letter</I> of the law, but it is certainly not within its <I>spirit</I>.<BR/><BR/>Also, disciplines are designed to be altered according to times and circumstances. At one time, meat - <I>any</I> meat - was considered to be a luxury, and shellfish and fish as common a food as one could get (lobsters used to be used for hog feed). Nowadays, seafood is dear and "variety meats" are held in contempt. Hence my suggestions of going vegetarian or having icky meats instead, or going vegan (no dairy or eggs, like the Eastern Rite Catholics do...Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01194200955033642204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-1164507479057135802006-11-25T21:17:00.000-05:002006-11-25T21:17:00.000-05:00Jeff,Actually, per Paenitemini, there was no longe...Jeff,<BR/>Actually, per Paenitemini, there was no longer a Church-wide mandatory abstention from fleshmeats. The various Episcopal Conferences simply went with the flow.<BR/><BR/>Dave,<BR/>The eating of fish, in and of itself, isn't a penance. It's the abstention from the flesh of mammals that is.Kevin Whitemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019976622801954677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-1164505626949345802006-11-25T20:47:00.000-05:002006-11-25T20:47:00.000-05:00Actually what the Church changed was that the pena...Actually what the Church changed was that the penance for Fridays would be set by the various Bishop's conferences. The USCCB norm for this though was was to set a voluntary penance at each persons discretion. Which of course is a joke.<BR/><BR/>Jimmy Akin has a great article on the subject.<BR/>http://www.jimmyakin.org/2004/07/more_on_friday_.htmlJeff Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03892529674664589034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-1164504962617420812006-11-25T20:36:00.000-05:002006-11-25T20:36:00.000-05:00To reply to your comment:"the more I look at the s...To reply to your comment:<BR/><BR/>"the more I look at the situation with the SSPX, I realize that they are more in-line with authentic Catholic Teachings than, oh, let's say... the Archdiocese of Los Angeles or Boston."<BR/><BR/>I would most times have to agree with you.<BR/><BR/>In regards to this post, I also observe meatless Fridays:<BR/><BR/>Canon 1251: "Abstinence from meat, or from some other food as determined by the episcopal conference, is to be observed on all Fridays, unless a solemnity should fall on a Friday." <BR/><BR/>Canon 1253 provides an exception to the rule - and, perhaps, an explanation for the cultural shift: "The episcopal conference can determine more particular ways in which fasting and abstinence are to be observed. In place of abstinence or fasting it can substitute, in whole or in part, other forms of penance, especially works of charity and exercises of piety."<BR/><BR/>I was just wondering if you have added me to your sidebar yet. You said that you would, but I understand that life can be busy.Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07929374709032473716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-1164504936585163902006-11-25T20:35:00.000-05:002006-11-25T20:35:00.000-05:00Eating fish isn't much of a penance anymore, consi...Eating fish isn't much of a penance anymore, considering the price...<BR/><BR/>You could have a nice big plate of tofu instead, or the organ meat of your choice...<BR/><BR/>I wonder if we could persuade Holy Mother Church to make liver, chitterlings, and tripe acceptable substitutes for Friday penance?Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01194200955033642204noreply@blogger.com