tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post115645742940984714..comments2024-03-23T05:16:23.443-05:00Comments on The Lair of the Catholic Cavemen: Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-1156540898951831782006-08-25T16:21:00.000-05:002006-08-25T16:21:00.000-05:00Yep. One must really have to try hard to screw-up ...Yep. One must really have to try hard to screw-up "prayer, fasting and almsgiving"... but somehow, they manage to.<BR/><BR/>Is it just me, or is "prayer, fasting and almsgiving" really quite simple?Kevin Whitemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019976622801954677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-1156505793467000222006-08-25T06:36:00.000-05:002006-08-25T06:36:00.000-05:00I agree that one should not equate almsgiving with...I agree that one should not equate almsgiving with supporting the Welfare State. And you and I have both heard the "peace and justice" spiel, which tries to turn Catholic Social Teaching into Marxism. That being said, some American Catholics have been infected with Calvinistic ideas about the deserving and undeserving. Because of these two extremes, solid preaching about many social justice issues is a tricky thing indeed...Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01194200955033642204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-1156503541089972722006-08-25T05:59:00.000-05:002006-08-25T05:59:00.000-05:00I've never known any Catholic, traditional or othe...I've never known any Catholic, traditional or otherwise, who was against almsgiving to the poor. <BR/><BR/>What I have seen is many Catholics, traditional or otherwise, who was against being <B>forced</B> to give to the lazy and/or lawbreaker <B>under the guise</B> of almsgiving to the poor.Kevin Whitemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019976622801954677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-1156476936994118472006-08-24T22:35:00.000-05:002006-08-24T22:35:00.000-05:00Here's a different, perhaps better, way of asking,...Here's a different, perhaps better, way of asking, framed in more traditional language:<BR/><BR/>How often does one hear a hard-hitting sermon on the Corporal Works of Mercy?Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01194200955033642204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-1156476558324416812006-08-24T22:29:00.000-05:002006-08-24T22:29:00.000-05:00I agree with you. But here's what I'm getting at:...I agree with you. But here's what I'm getting at:<BR/><BR/>What would most American traditional Catholics do if they heard a sermon preached on treatment of the poor, or on prejudice, or on workers' rights, or on any other social justice issue which has been wrongfully co-opted by the "peace and-justice" crowd? Do priests at TLMs speak of <I>Rerum Novarum</I> and <I>Quadrigesimo Anno</I>? <BR/><BR/>A good number of American Catholics (and again, I'm not singling out traditional Catholics, but Catholics who describe themselves as "conservative", however they define that word) would rather believe in the Gospel According to Ayn Rand than the Gospel According to Matthew, Chapter 25...Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01194200955033642204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-1156473164943396492006-08-24T21:32:00.000-05:002006-08-24T21:32:00.000-05:00The "hard truths" found in the 2,000 years of Cath...The "hard truths" found in the 2,000 years of Catholicism, I can live with.<BR/><BR/>The novelties and down-right quasi-Protestantism of the last 40 years... I'll take a pass.<BR/><BR/>Just this humble cave-moderators opinionKevin Whitemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019976622801954677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-1156471436909144752006-08-24T21:03:00.000-05:002006-08-24T21:03:00.000-05:00I'll stick with my 'unafraid to tell me the hard t...<I>I'll stick with my 'unafraid to tell me the hard truths of being a good Catholic' Mr. Moose of a parish priest, over the 'I'll tell you what you want to hear instead of what you need to hear' Mr. Deer of a priest.</I><BR/><BR/>But...what happens if someone (not implying our gracious Cave-Moderator or anyone else, mind you) gets very selective about the "hard truths" they want to hear?Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01194200955033642204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-1156460857155103672006-08-24T18:07:00.000-05:002006-08-24T18:07:00.000-05:00Okay, since it is apparently open season WRT scato...Okay, since it is apparently open season WRT scatological humour...<BR/><BR/>There's a bear and a bunny taking a shit together in the woods. The bear asks the bunny, "Say, do you have any trouble with shit sticking to your fur?"<BR/><BR/>"No," the bunny replies, hesitantly, "Havent had a problem yet..."<BR/><BR/>So the bear grabs the bunny and wipes his ass with him.<BR/><BR/>[gasp!]<BR/><BR/>There's probably no really, deep, hidden message in that one, except to say, "Stay away from bears shitting in the woods!"<BR/><BR/><BR/>Pax tecumGeoffrey Gilberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04892413353061949813noreply@blogger.com