tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post113544526510883767..comments2024-03-23T05:16:23.443-05:00Comments on The Lair of the Catholic Cavemen: Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-1135921277408676932005-12-30T00:41:00.000-05:002005-12-30T00:41:00.000-05:00Anonymous wants to know what the big deal is with ...Anonymous wants to know what the big deal is with Latin? He went to the traditional Mass as child and didn't know what was being said? How old was he at the time -four? So when the priest said "Dominus vobiscum" and he responded "Et cum spiritutuo", or "Sursum corda," "Habemus ad Dominum", he didn't know what it meant? Maybe he wasn't old enough to read. As Caveman Commander points out, that's why one page of the missal was in Latin and the facing page was in English (or the native language of the missal owner). More importantly, the huge benefit of Latin -- and the Tridentine liturgy -- is it is the same everywhere in the world! Talk about "One" Church! As long as you have your Latin-English missal, it doesn't make any difference where you attend the traditional Mass -- EVERY priest is saying the SAME thing in Boston, Tijuana, Saigon, wherever. Quite different than the Novus Ordo novelty Mass. One never knows what variation you might stumble into at at any given parish, er, faith community. The only thing most N.O. Masses have in common is there lack of reverence. Give me Latin anytime!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-1135621508740504922005-12-26T13:25:00.000-05:002005-12-26T13:25:00.000-05:00M2,Sorry Chickie-Baby. I'm a Traditional kinda guy...M2,<BR/>Sorry Chickie-Baby. I'm a Traditional kinda guy... the rubrics for the Latin Mass call for kneeling. Kneeling it shall be.<BR/><BR/>But in the meantime, good Catholic Cavewomen are welcome in here all the time!Kevin Whitemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019976622801954677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-1135531566478233292005-12-25T12:26:00.000-05:002005-12-25T12:26:00.000-05:00in your o.p., someone mentioned kneeling at the po...in your o.p., someone mentioned <B>kneeling</B> at the point of the creed: <I>"by the power of the Holy Spirit, He was born of the Virgin Mary, and became Man..."</I><BR/><BR/>would <B>profound bow</B> be an acceptable contribution from this cavewoman? as well as crossing myself at the epiklesis?<BR/><BR/>i would add more but i'm sensing and overabundance of testosterone so i shall leave and bid you ~peace~~pen~https://www.blogger.com/profile/07822146312033633535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-1135459259048647892005-12-24T16:20:00.000-05:002005-12-24T16:20:00.000-05:00What is the big deal with Latin?As a child Mass wa...<I>What is the big deal with Latin?<BR/>As a child Mass was always in Latin and we studied Latin but I never really understood the Mass until it was said in English.<BR/>Maybe all physcians should speak to us in Latin since it was the language of science at one time.</I><BR/><BR/>Anon, <BR/>I'm sooooo glad you asked about "the big deal" concerning Latin. Please go to http://mypeoplepc.com/members/whitemanfamily/Catholic_Caveman/id9.html for a greater explaination. But the long story short... Latin is a dead language (thank God). What's said in Latin is meant. It's set in stone... the words can't change, unlive the "live" languages of today. <BR/><BR/>Just look at the word "gay". A generation ago, that word meant happy. It now means something very different. With that said, I don't think we should be playing fast and loose with the Consecration. Remember, Clinton asked what the definition if "is" is. And people took him seriously. <BR/><BR/>The big deal with Latin, and Liturgical Latin at that? It's set in concrete. Absolutely zero possibility for error, unlike English, Japanese, Swahili, etc, etc. <BR/><BR/>As far as you never really understood the Mass until it was in English... I can't understand how. English was on the right hand side of the Missal. How could you NOT understand it?Kevin Whitemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019976622801954677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-1135456121651527142005-12-24T15:28:00.000-05:002005-12-24T15:28:00.000-05:00What is the big deal with Latin?As a child Mass wa...What is the big deal with Latin?<BR/>As a child Mass was always in Latin and we studied Latin but I never really understood the Mass until it was said in English.<BR/>Maybe all physcians should speak to us in Latin since it was the language of science at one time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18853193.post-1135453658469506262005-12-24T14:47:00.000-05:002005-12-24T14:47:00.000-05:00OK, I confess: I say And also with your spirit in ...OK, I confess: I say <I>And also with your spirit</I> in lieu of "and also with you" in the various pieces of the Mass.<BR/><BR/>I never new why I did that, except that the Latin words in the novus ordo translate that way. It just <I>sounds</I> more like what I really mean to say - that the priest celebrant has a unique identity that I choose to recognize.<BR/><BR/>Always thought I was a bit silly, but who knows---it may catch on.<BR/><BR/>As for the drinking of the Precious Blood, this I actually like doing - receiving under both species seems somehow <I>obedient</I> to me:<BR/><BR/><I>Take this, all of you, and drink from it. This is the cup of my blood, the blood of the new and everlasting covenant; it will be shed for you, and for all (many?) that sins may be forgiven - <B>Do this is memory of me</B></I>.<BR/><BR/>That's this neophyte's two cents. Merry Christmas Caveman.A. Carlton Sallethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12148098140179677121noreply@blogger.com